Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

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Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Pboxer88 » Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:47 pm

This will be my second and last new topic on 8K. GG, please see my post below to see why 8K is awesome even for people with 4k TVs.

Obviously if you go through the trouble of it, avids should start allowing you to post the actual 8k files too (which you can get to a much more reasonable file size using AV1).

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Christopher_Williams1 » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:33 pm

I have a high-end tv too. Well, at least as it relates to 2019 technology. I don't know how much the tech improve since then. Initially, it was awesome. Then I got used to it and didn't notice a thing. If I were to go to 8k, I will probably face the same fate. But... I bet if I were to go back down, I would instantly notice and want to go back up. As of right now, I tend not go higher than 4k because of the time and cost. I think these days, internet service providers provide a cap on internet too. I have AT&T, if you're familiar with them and they cap me at like 1TB a month. And it's no way I would download a 70GB or whatever large size that file is. I don't recall the exact number, but I do remember being shocked with the file size.

But I'm sure GIO would provide us with a list of options, making it no problem if GIO wants to invest into better resolution.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby drevokocur66 » Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:57 am

HDR 4k > 8K.
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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Pboxer88 » Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:59 am

Using Av1 of h265 you can easily fit an 8k file into 12-18 gb, not 70. The reason analvids wastes so much space with their downloads is they use a decade old file compression format, h264
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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Alan2008 » Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:24 pm

Giorgio, if you want to sell more why don't you consider having a "Happy Hour" lets say every Friday, where customers can get discounted prices of older releases (Maybe 3+ months old) for a limited time (especially to your good customers). You could also have bank holiday promotional prices/discounts. Alternatively you could have a 10-20% discount of a new release for the 1st 24 hrs. You may need to experiment a bit (with a few parameters ie video quality, which parts in a 2 part movie etc.,) to find the "sweetspot" for your sales. Also there seems to be a lot of video piracy which you need to tackle. I think without tackling that any sales campaigns that you start may not be very effective, especially for long term sales. I think having time-limited PPV for new videos might be another option.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:51 pm

I planned to shot in 8K already in 2022, but I did not have the right condition to work on it.
Most likely in 2024 I will move over 4k. It seams stupid to say, but the last of the problem is the camera. to shoot in an higher resolution that 4K requires a huge upgrade in the hardware for post production (more expensive than a video-camera)
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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Pboxer88 » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:47 pm

Giorgio, that would be amazing if you moved over sometime this year! Does analvids give you the right to post the actual 8k file? Again, you can save a TON of storage space compressing with h265 or better AV1 over the h264 you're currently using.

So far I've seen 5k porn on 5kporn.com on my 8K TV and even that is a noticeable upgrade to the visual quality. 8k matters more to porn than anything else if you ask me. We're staring at women with beautiful faces, skin, hair etc. after all.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Alan2008 » Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:44 am

Alan2008 wrote:Giorgio, if you want to sell more why don't you consider having a "Happy Hour" lets say every Friday, where customers can get discounted prices of older releases (Maybe 3+ months old) for a limited time (especially to your good customers). You could also have bank holiday promotional prices/discounts. Alternatively you could have a 10-20% discount of a new release for the 1st 24 hrs. You may need to experiment a bit (with a few parameters ie video quality, which parts in a 2 part movie etc.,) to find the "sweetspot" for your sales. Also there seems to be a lot of video piracy which you need to tackle. I think without tackling that any sales campaigns that you start may not be very effective, especially for long term sales. I think having time-limited PPV for new videos might be another option.


There could also be bulk discounts. e,g Buy 2 and you get 1 at 50% Discount (for the cheapest one) etc., etc., :)

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Pboxer88 » Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:47 am

Analvids is a niche product. I'd rather GG improve video quality than make the existing quality cheaper, but that's just me.
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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Alan2008 » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:50 am

Pboxer88 wrote:Analvids is a niche product. I'd rather GG improve video quality than make the existing quality cheaper, but that's just me.


If it is a niche product then you can't complain about the price. Niche products are more expensive. I think video quality needs to be maintained.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:14 pm

For GIO, take your time with the move to 8K...if you want something doing properly, take your time...and do not rush.

Your true fans can wait. Better to have the right, quality product, at the right time. Than a botched, mediocre product earlier.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby achmeth » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:46 am

Pboxer88 wrote:This will be my second and last new topic on 8K. GG, please see my post below to see why 8K is awesome even for people with 4k TVs.

Obviously if you go through the trouble of it, avids should start allowing you to post the actual 8k files too (which you can get to a much more reasonable file size using AV1).



Bollocks, even 4k is pushing it and hardly worth the huge file size...

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Pboxer88 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:09 am

achmeth wrote:
Pboxer88 wrote:This will be my second and last new topic on 8K. GG, please see my post below to see why 8K is awesome even for people with 4k TVs.

Obviously if you go through the trouble of it, avids should start allowing you to post the actual 8k files too (which you can get to a much more reasonable file size using AV1).



Bollocks, even 4k is pushing it and hardly worth the huge file size...


You just proved my point. The current 4k vids could easily be compressed into 4-6GB instead of 10-15GB using exiting and far superior compression technology, hence making size less of an issue, and maintaining identical quality. Using H265, or better, AV1.

It's 2024. We can have our cake and it eat it too, but for some reason site operators seem to have less knowledge about basic file management than the average Reddit tinkerer. And if you say, " they just don't care", well, they care about money, and smaller files save server space, so it actually makes no sense from a business standpoint either. It's just ignorance.
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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby achmeth » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:11 am

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achmeth wrote:
Pboxer88 wrote:This will be my second and last new topic on 8K. GG, please see my post below to see why 8K is awesome even for people with 4k TVs.

Obviously if you go through the trouble of it, avids should start allowing you to post the actual 8k files too (which you can get to a much more reasonable file size using AV1).



Bollocks, even 4k is pushing it and hardly worth the huge file size...


You just proved my point. The current 4k vids could easily be compressed into 4-6GB instead of 10-15GB using exiting and far superior compression technology, hence making size less of an issue, and maintaining identical quality. Using H265, or better, AV1.

It's 2024. We can have our cake and it eat it too, but for some reason site operators seem to have less knowledge about basic file management than the average Reddit tinkerer. And if you say, " they just don't care", well, they care about money, and smaller files save server space, so it actually makes no sense from a business standpoint either. It's just ignorance.


It's not just file size. I imagine 8k has a pretty big financial impact on shooting and editing equipment. And exept maybe for some special promo material, I can barely see the difference between 4k and 8k at normal viewing distance and tv size.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Pboxer88 » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:05 am

I guess to each eye his own. I watch porn and game on an 85 inch 8k TV and to me the difference is more mindblowing than full hd to 4k. Every friend I've shown so far agrees. For example, re4 in 8k. Can't wait for porn to catch up. there's literally nothing special about video demos that can't be replicated today with an 8k cam, production costs aside.
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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby aloyhalo » Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:57 pm

8k is a waste of money and resources - 4k is more than enough.

I would MUCH rather see Giorgio film in 60fps instead of 30fps - it makes such a huge difference to video clarity. Giorgio - would you please consider filming in 60fps?

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:28 pm

I think there is no need to rush to move to 8K...at least not in 2024, in my opinion.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby PornoManiac » Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:06 pm

4K 60 FPS it's the best option
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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby Pboxer88 » Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:32 am

If not 8k yet till 2025 or 26, then yes please do 4k60، but with a high bitrate like Facial Abuse does for its separate (from the main site) purchase system. I hate FA content but their image quality is unmatched and a yardstick for 4k quality. Analvids has been stuck on same quality and format since 2016. Thats an eternity in tech years and its the best content site so please up your IQ game. :)
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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby aloyhalo » Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:13 pm

Does Giorgio read this forum? Please, Giorgio, film in 4k 60fps!

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby saculrehsif » Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:14 am

I rather have a option for 60 FPS or the old 12K bitrate to be brought. Seems a lot more plausible and makes much more of a difference when you watch porn on some big TV.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby aloyhalo » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:14 am

It's a shame Giorgio isn't listening to these requests/feedback. 60fps would absolutely transform his scenes. They would look so much better, in my opinion.

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby aloyhalo » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:03 pm

Actually, I've just noticed that his latest scene (Monika Fox) is at 50fps, which is an improvement! 60fps would be better though, Giorgio ;)

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Re: Giorgio, if you want to sell more longterm, Move to 8K!!!

Postby aloyhalo » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:43 pm

aloyhalo wrote:Actually, I've just noticed that his latest scene (Monika Fox) is at 50fps, which is an improvement! 60fps would be better though, Giorgio ;)

aaaannddd....now the scenes are back to 30fps :( What's going on, Giorgio? The Monika Fox scene looked great in 50fps!


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