Misha Cross, Rocks On!

[magizi877]

Damn!

Indeed

[maigay]

We spoke to her a few months ago she said the LP style is too hard for her now. It looks like she changed a lot after her USA trip, but it could be other things, who knows.

American porno is not hard.....some girls (Maddy o Rilley for example) will want go to prague for make the true and very hard scenes! (great anal/dp/dap/gangbang/piss ecc...)
The only american prod. near Legalporno style is Kink.com

thanks xxx

[dap-addict]

We spoke to her a few months ago she said the LP style is too hard for her now. It looks like she changed a lot after her USA trip, but it could be other things, who knows.

Bad news Misha got so spoiled in the US!
Thanks for asking Misha Cross for more, xxx!
Lets see...if she doesnt get her next US visum soon but still wants to stay in porn she prolly has to adjust to the Euro way of things again. But maybe just depends all on how much she earned there and saved up. Or whatever....

[Tastes Like Ass]

We spoke to her a few months ago she said the LP style is too hard for her now. It looks like she changed a lot after her USA trip, but it could be other things, who knows.

This just demonstrates exactly what I have been trying to tell you guys, that the problem with American porn is not the girls; it's the directors, who spoil the girls and refuse to push them.

Here you see a European girl, who previously had no problem with hardcore porn. Then, she goes to the U.S., gets coddled by the terrible American directors, and suddenly, she only wants to do tame, softcore scenes.

This is a perfect illustration of my point. American girls are ruined by working with these idiotic American directors, who treat all of them as if they are God's gift to porn.

[tgcfc26]

This just demonstrates exactly what I have been trying to tell you guys, that the problem with American porn is not the girls; it's the directors, who spoil the girls and refuse to push them.

Here you see a European girl, who previously had no problem with hardcore porn. Then, she goes to the U.S., gets coddled by the terrible American directors, and suddenly, she only wants to do tame, softcore scenes.

This is a perfect illustration of my point. American girls are ruined by working with these idiotic American directors, who treat all of them as if they are God's gift to porn.

I don't think it's as black and white as that, have you not read the countless stories, or seen the documentaries that talk about the dark side of American porn. A lot of those girls get treated like complete shit over there, the American industry is full of egomaniacs both behind and in front of the camera, there are many of them who couldn't give a fuck about the welfare or treatment of the women. Here's a blog from just over a year back http://splendorstreet.com/blog/2013/08/20/ex-pornstars-on-the-porn-industry-draft/ Some old and some more recent former American girls talking about their experiences.

It's a shame that Misha has decided the harder scenes aren't for her anymore, but do you remember her comments on here when she was defending Sammantha Bentley ? She expressed how taxing these scenes are on their bodies, how she can't perform them regularly and now finds herself visiting the doctor more often just to check that her arse is okay.

I don't blame American directors for this, I just see it as a woman deciding enough is enough. Put it this way, your manager comes to you tomorrow and says "How would you like to keep doing your job, but I'm gonna make it far easier for you and pay you the same" would you say no ?

[Tastes Like Ass]

^ I don't think it's as black and white as that, have you not read the countless stories, or seen the documentaries that talk about the dark side of American porn. A lot of those girls get treated like complete shit over there, the American industry is full of egomaniacs both behind and in front of the camera, a lot of them couldn't give a fuck about the welfare of the women. Here's a blog from just over a year back http://splendorstreet.com/blog/2013/08/20/ex-pornstars-on-the-porn-industry-draft/ Some old and some more recent former American girls talking about their experiences.

I don't need to listen to the sour grapes of former porn stars. Porn is really no different than any other industry, in the sense that a high percentage of people who decided to stop working in that industry will tend to report negative experiences. After all, if they had loved it, they probably wouldn't have quit so soon, right?

It's a shame that Misha has decided the harder scenes aren't for her anymore, but do you guys remember her comments on here when she was defending Sammantha Bentley. She expressed how taxing these scenes are on their bodies, how she can't perform them regularly and now finds herself visiting the doctor more often just to check that her arse is okay.

I understand that, and I said as much to Samantha in that thread. But I also told her that she shouldn't expect me (or anybody else) to feel sorry for her. Yes, it's a difficult job, but so are many other jobs that require you to work much longer hours for much lower pay. More importantly, contrary to the claims of certain feminist types, no one forced these girls to do porn. They chose this job, and they are free to stop at any time. So, I see no reason why they should be pitied, or treated as victims of some sort.

I don't blame American directors for this, I just see it as a woman deciding enough is enough. Put it this way, your manager comes to you tomorrow and says "How would you like to keep doing your job, but I'm gonna make it far easier for you and pay you the same" would you say no ?

I guess I don't understand your point here. Many of the best mainstream film directors are known for being extremely demanding, as are many of the best sports coaches. This is how they are able to get the absolute best performances out of the actors/players they are in charge of. I expect the same from porn directors. I expect them to push the girls (and the guys) to give the best performance they possibly can. I don't expect them to just say, "Hey, just do whatever you enjoy, and I'll film it. If the fans like it, great. If not, who gives a shit?" Yet this seems to be the attitude of so many directors (especially American directors) these days. How else do you explain the fact that American porn is so much less hardcore than it was 10 years ago?

[tgcfc26]

I don't need to listen to the sour grapes of former porn stars. Porn is really no different than any other industry, in the sense that a high percentage of people who decided to stop working in that industry will tend to report negative experiences. After all, if they had loved it, they probably wouldn't have quit so soon, right?

Wrong. Take a minute to read some of that stuff, it has fuck all to do with sour grapes. I've seen plenty of girls talk about their love of sex, but because of abuse or injury they had to quit. Besides, I provided that link because you claimed they treat all the women as if they're "god's gift to porn" over there.

I understand that, and I said as much to Samantha in that thread. But I also told her that she shouldn't expect me (or anybody else) to feel sorry for her. Yes, it's a difficult job, but so are many other jobs that require you to work much longer hours for much lower pay. More importantly, contrary to the claims of certain feminist types, no one forced these girls to do porn. They chose this job, and they are free to stop at any time. So, I see no reason why they should be pitied, or treated as victims of some sort.

I don't understand this mindset, how can you possibly compare this line of work to anything in the world other than maybe prostitution. I work like a fucking dog for far less than what these girls earn, do you know what I don't have to do ? take coke can size cocks in my arse for hours on end. Nobody is talking about feeling sorry for her, or saying she should be pitied, I said I could see why she would make a decision to stop doing the harder scenes based on her views regarding their possible impact on her health. Your claiming her decision has been made because of American directors and their mollycoddling. I feel like I'm taking to realtip here.

I guess I don't understand your point here. Many of the best mainstream film directors are known for being extremely demanding, as are many of the best sports coaches. This is how they are able to get the absolute best performances out of the actors/players they are in charge of. I expect the same from porn directors. I expect them to push the girls (and the guys) to give the best performance they possibly can. I don't expect them to just say, "Hey, just do whatever you enjoy, and I'll film it. If the fans like it, great. If not, who gives a shit?" Yet this seems to be the attitude of so many directors (especially American directors) these days. How else do you explain the fact that American porn is so much less hardcore than it was 10 years ago?

What is there to not understand, this has nothing to do with sports, or movies, or your personal expectations of other people; there is an absolute fuckton of porn that that I would consider subpar, but as the saying goes, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

As far as American porn being less hardcore, I'm not so sure it is. Hardcoregangbangs, Helplessteens, and Latinathroats all immediately spring to mind. I'm sure I could find a lot more if I cared for any of that crap.

You made several references to porn and other lines of work, so I'll ask my question again, tomorrow you are offered the opportunity to carry on doing what it is you do, you'll be offered the same amount of money, but the work will be easier ( less physically demanding) what do you say, Yes or No ?

[SuperImp]

Damn, that is unfortunate. I figured her and Samantha were the types that were in it for the many variations of porn (including enjoyment of BDSM and rough sex). Of course, it's hard to say if they truly loved all aspects of it or put on a face that is well hidden to the viewer. Heck, it could be like what XXX said in that it could be something totally different that caused her to not be interested in those scenes anymore or she is moving on to what she feels is most comfortable for her stage in her career.

Things change and it's starting to be common to see various pornstars change in terms of their scene types (Especially when they become popular in the mainstream), but I agree with Tastes Like Ass that American porn probably played a factor too. The directors have a bit of impact, but I think it has more to do with the transition and culture of porn in America (In which I agree with tgcfc26 with it being not so black and white). You also have to factor in the unfortunate laws of what consists as obscene acts (Quite vague), acts that are in the grey, etc. This is also around the time that Max Hardcore went to prison for his videos that were considered obscene and the scares of HIV/AIDS with risky sex acts.

I wish American porn would still be like those made from 2000ish to 2008ish. For any fan that has watched a good bit of American porn, you can tell that a lot of the Gonzo and other genres from that period alone went from quite hardcore to a more static formula found in todays porn. Only a few directors and studios exist now that still put out some of that content in America, but it pales to those of the past.

Maybe we can create a new thread, it's definitely an interesting topic Misha Cross is still awesome!

[dap-addict]

the American industry is full of egomaniacs both behind and in front of the camera, there are many of them who couldn't give a fuck about the welfare or treatment of the women. Here's a blog from just over a year back http://splendorstreet.com/blog/2013/08/20/ex-pornstars-on-the-porn-industry-draft/

Sorry, thats just a collection of anti-porn crap!
Collect bad experiences and dont mention the good ones. Dont really need this here, especially as it has nothing in common with Mishas no to LP.

[Tastes Like Ass]

Wrong. Take a minute to read some of that stuff, it has fuck all to do with sour grapes. I've seen plenty of girls talk about their love of sex, but because of abuse or injury they had to quit. Besides, I provided that link because you claimed they treat all the women as if they're "god's gift to porn" over there.

Again, I don't need to read it. I've heard plenty of "horror stories" from all sorts of industries. These things are not unique to porn. As for the "God's gift" line, it's called hyperbole.

I don't understand this mindset, how can you possibly compare this line of work to anything in the world other than maybe prostitution. I work like a fucking dog for far less than what these girls earn, do you know what I don't have to do ? take coke can size cocks in my arse for hours on end.

You know what? They don't have to do that, either. They choose to do that, which is a huge difference.

Nobody is talking about feeling sorry for her, or saying she should be pitied...

Yet, you keep telling me how hard her job is, even though I have already acknowledged that. If you're not trying to get me to pity her, then what are you trying to do?

I feel like I'm taking to realtip here.

And I feel like I'm talking to some idiot from Pink Cross. Seriously, if you think porn is so evil, why do you watch it?

What is there to not understand, this has nothing to do with sports, or movies, or your personal expectations of other people...

I fail to see how porn is so different from sports, mainstream movies, the music industry, etc. It is a profession that is based on providing entertainment. As in any business, the number one priority is customer satisfaction. It's really quite simple.

As far as American porn being less hardcore, I'm not so sure it is. Hardcoregangbangs, Helplessteens, and Latinathroats all immediately spring to mind. I'm sure I could find a lot more if I cared for any of that crap.

You must not have watched much American porn 10 years ago. Studios like Anabolic, Diabolic, Platinum X, Red Light District and many others produced more hardcore scenes in a month than they make now in a year. And that's not even including those who really pushed the envelope (and at times, the boundaries of good taste, as well), like Extreme Associates, JM Productions, and Max Hardcore.

You made several references to porn and other lines of work, so I'll ask my question again, tomorrow you are offered the opportunity to carry on doing what it is you do, you'll be offered the same amount of money, but the work will be easier ( less physically demanding) what do you say, Yes or No ?

I think you (somehow) misunderstood my point, so let me make it abundantly clear. I am not blaming Misha (or any other performer, for that matter) for doing as little as necessary to collect their check. Rather, I'm blaming the directors for allowing them to get away with it.

The bottom line is that porn is a job that requires no education and no experience. In the vast majority of similar jobs, you would have to work an entire 40 hour week (if not more) to make the same amount of money a girl typically gets for doing a single anal scene. So, given that she is making as much money for 2 hours of work as she could otherwise earn in an entire week, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to demand that she give absolute maximum effort for those 2 hours, and I expect the director to see that she does.

By the way, if you don't believe me, ask Jada Stevens. I recall reading an interview she did a while back where she said that in her opinion, Mason was the best director in porn, in large part because she always demanded 100% effort from the girls, while most directors were willing to let girls "coast" through their scenes. [That's a paraphrase, but it's pretty close to her exact words. If you don't believe me, I can probably find the link, so you can read it yourself.]

[magizi877]

Guys, If lovely Misha decided to retire, then we should just let go.
(pretty common in porn, you should all be used to by now)

[tgcfc26]

Sorry, thats just a collection of anti-porn crap!
Collect bad experiences and dont mention the good ones. Dont really need this here, especially as it has nothing in common with Mishas no to LP.

Surprise surprise, dap-addict had to give his misplaced 2 cents. Who said it had anything to do with Misha ? I provided it as a rebuttal to TLA's claim that American directors mollycoddle their performers, nothing more.

And TLA, I see the only part of my post you decided not to quote was my original point as to what is more likely to have contributed to her decision to quit harder work.

I could see why she would make a decision to stop doing the harder scenes based on her views regarding their possible impact on her health. You're claiming her decision has been made because of American directors and their mollycoddling.

I'm not telling you how hard her job is you exaggerator, I made reference to what she told us in her own words. You decided to turn that into me finding porn evil, and speaking as if I'm somehow affiliated with pink cross. I actually had to look the latter up, which made me wonder why you had knowledge of it. So with that in mind, seen as you view porn as no different to any other entertainment industry, can you provide me with foundations that work with the movie and music industry who provide emotional and transitional support for their stars ?

I asked for a yes or no to my question by the way, not that a three paragraph answer's not appreciated

[Tastes Like Ass]

Guys, If lovely Misha decided to retire, then we should just let go.
(pretty common in porn, you should all be used to by now)

Actually, I never (and I mean literally never) complain if a girl decides to retire. That's her decision, and if her heart's not in it, I'd rather she retire. Same thing for when girls decide to stop doing anal.

The only thing I get upset about is when a girl keeps performing, but no longer gives her all, and tries to "half ass it" (no pun intended) through her scenes. I feel like that's cheating the customer. But again, I don't blame the girl; I blame the director who allows it to happen.

[dap-addict]

Surprise surprise, dap-addict had to give his misplaced 2 cents. Who said it had anything to do with Misha ? I provided it as a rebuttal to TLA's claim that American directors mollycoddle their performers, nothing more.

It still doenst proof anything.
Except that the anti-porn propaganda has invaded you as well.
May I ask you to open 1 thread for anti-porn crusade crap if you really need to post it here, but refrain from doing it in model threads? Thanks!

[Tastes Like Ass]

...TLA, I see the only part of my post you decided not to quote was my original point as to what is more likely to have contributed to her decision to quit harder work.

I quoted the parts that seemed relevant to my point. I am not denying her right to make whatever career decision she chooses. However, I find it to be quite a coincidence that as soon as she gets back from America, where the directors are much less demanding (I notice you no longer seem to be trying to deny that), she suddenly decides that the LP style is too difficult for her. I would guess (and this is admittedly speculation on my part, based on what XXX said) that while she was in America, she got used to being allowed to coast through scenes, and she knows that the directors at LP won't tolerate that. I could be wrong, but that's my theory.

I made reference to what she told us in her own words. You decided to turn that into me finding porn evil, and speaking as if I'm somehow affiliated with pink cross.

Because you were making the kinds of arguments that I would typically expect from those sorts of people.

I actually had to look the latter up, which made me wonder why you had knowledge of it. So with that in mind, seen as you view porn as no different to any other entertainment industry, can you provide me with foundations that work with the movie and music industry who provide emotional and transitional support for their stars ?

I can provide you with the names of plenty of groups that try to "rehabilitate" homosexuals. Do you buy into their propaganda as readily as you seem to buy into the anti-porn variety?

I asked for a yes or no to my question by the way, not that a three paragraph answer's not appreciated

Sorry, but if you want me to answer your questions, you're just going to have to live with the kinds of answers I see fit to provide.

[tgcfc26]

Surprise surprise, dap-addict had to give his misplaced 2 cents. Who said it had anything to do with Misha ? I provided it as a rebuttal to TLA's claim that American directors mollycoddle their performers, nothing more.

It still doenst proof anything.
Except that the anti-porn propaganda has invaded you as well.
May I ask you to open 1 thread for anti-porn crusade crap if you really need to post it here, but refrain from doing it in model threads? Thanks!

It proves everything, and how does me providing a link to former stars experiences make me anti-porn ? I fucking love porn, that doesn't make me blind to the reality of some of the shit that goes on behind the scenes. The only crusade it would seem is your apparent need to inform me that this isn't factual.

You can ask me to refrain from doing anything you like, but I'll post where I want. Thanks !

[tgcfc26]

I ccanprovide you with the names of plenty of groups that try to "rehabilitate" homosexuals. Do you buy into their propaganda as readily as you seem to buy into the anti-porn variety ?

In other words not answer the question, and what lead you to acquire the information and existence of the plenty of groups that try to rehabilitate homosexuals ?

[Tastes Like Ass]

In other words not answer the question, and what lead you to acquire the information and existence of the plenty of groups that "rehabilitate homosexuals" ?

I did (indirectly) answer the question; you just missed the point of my answer, which is that anti-porn groups, just like anti-gay groups, are nothing but sanctimonious moralizers who have nothing better to do than "save people from themselves."

Oh, and by the way, the reason I know about Pink Cross is Nadia Styles, who spent about 5 years as one of its most vocal members, going on and on about her awful experiences in porn. Then, about a year ago, she suddenly returned to porn, with no explanation. Maybe I was on to something with the stuff about sour grapes, huh?

[tgcfc26]

Oh, and by the way, the reason I know about Pink Cross is Nadia Styles, who spent about 5 years as one of its most vocal members, going on and on about her awful experiences in porn. Then, about a year ago, she suddenly returned to porn, with no explanation. Maybe I was on to something with the stuff about sour grapes, huh?

Maybe she returned because as you claim, the industry and directors have changed in America, huh ?

[Tastes Like Ass]

Maybe she returned because as you claim, the industry and directors have changed in America, huh ?

You might be right...but I'm betting it was more because the amount of money in her bank account had changed!

[tgcfc26]

I do enjoy these chats, TLA. Same time next week ?

[Tastes Like Ass]

I do enjoy these chats, TLA. Same time next week ?

Sure, I wouldn't miss it for the world!

[mishacross]

Loool. Im not retiring, im not planning not to do anal, im not going to give up on hardcore porn, im totally busy throughout the february and march in europe and i just fucking won foreign female performer of the year as well as was nominated best new starlet on avn awards which is something that was never ever done before by an european performer! Pretty amusing to read all that speculations tho.
I never said i quit doing hardcore anal. I said no to lp after they offered me 15 scenes at once, i thought that was insane, thats when i said "nope, your shit is too hard"
And im not being spoiled by american producers. Working in america is way more difficult than here in europe, at least its worth the effort.

[teschio]

Please LegalPorno.com :

MORE MORE MORE MISHA CROSS
for news videos Gang Bang (with at least 10 guys), Bukkake, anal fisitng and especially PISS DRINKING for MISHA.... :-)

I love you Misha, you are fantastic.

[tgcfc26]

Loool. Im not retiring, im not planning not to do anal, im not going to give up on hardcore porn, im totally busy throughout the february and march in europe and i just fucking won foreign female performer of the year as well as was nominated best new starlet on avn awards which is something that was never ever done before by an european performer! Pretty amusing to read all that speculations tho.
I never said i quit doing hardcore anal. I said no to lp after they offered me 15 scenes at once, i thought that was insane, thats when i said "nope, your shit is too hard"
And im not being spoiled by american producers. Working in america is way more difficult than here in europe, at least its worth the effort.

Well this is good news, thanks for posting and giving us your side of it; and grats on your award and nom

[utopiaa]

Grats on the awards, nice job, i don't remember either anyone winning it so fast.

[xxx]

Loool. Im not retiring, im not planning not to do anal, im not going to give up on hardcore porn, im totally busy throughout the february and march in europe and i just fucking won foreign female performer of the year as well as was nominated best new starlet on avn awards which is something that was never ever done before by an european performer! Pretty amusing to read all that speculations tho.
I never said i quit doing hardcore anal. I said no to lp after they offered me 15 scenes at once, i thought that was insane, thats when i said "nope, your shit is too hard"
And im not being spoiled by american producers. Working in america is way more difficult than here in europe, at least its worth the effort.

We did not mean 15 scenes at once, but over several sessions

15 in one go would be pretty hard for sure!

[ElJab78]

Loool. Im not retiring, im not planning not to do anal, im not going to give up on hardcore porn, im totally busy throughout the february and march in europe and i just fucking won foreign female performer of the year as well as was nominated best new starlet on avn awards which is something that was never ever done before by an european performer! Pretty amusing to read all that speculations tho.
I never said i quit doing hardcore anal. I said no to lp after they offered me 15 scenes at once, i thought that was insane, thats when i said "nope, your shit is too hard"
And im not being spoiled by american producers. Working in america is way more difficult than here in europe, at least its worth the effort.

Thanks for clarifying Misha. Congrats on being nominated as best new starlet. Your stuff on EA has been great. Looking forward to seeing your new stuff. Sindrive is great.

[pastaga]

Loool. Im not retiring, im not planning not to do anal, im not going to give up on hardcore porn, im totally busy throughout the february and march in europe and i just fucking won foreign female performer of the year as well as was nominated best new starlet on avn awards which is something that was never ever done before by an european performer! Pretty amusing to read all that speculations tho.
I never said i quit doing hardcore anal. I said no to lp after they offered me 15 scenes at once, i thought that was insane, thats when i said "nope, your shit is too hard"
And im not being spoiled by american producers. Working in america is way more difficult than here in europe, at least its worth the effort.

Congrats for this award Misha, well deserved !
xxx, please book her for any scenes she wants during any delay she wants. She's a star now, and even with one single scene I'd be very happy

Please LegalPorno.com :

MORE MORE MORE MISHA CROSS
for news videos Gang Bang (with at least 10 guys), Bukkake, anal fisitng and especially PISS DRINKING for MISHA.... :-)

I love you Misha, you are fantastic.

Teschio, I think we now all know you love almost all the girls here and you want them to do QAP and stuff...

[Sophocles]

Loool. Im not retiring, im not planning not to do anal, im not going to give up on hardcore porn, im totally busy throughout the february and march in europe and i just fucking won foreign female performer of the year as well as was nominated best new starlet on avn awards which is something that was never ever done before by an european performer! Pretty amusing to read all that speculations tho.
I never said i quit doing hardcore anal. I said no to lp after they offered me 15 scenes at once, i thought that was insane, thats when i said "nope, your shit is too hard"
And im not being spoiled by american producers. Working in america is way more difficult than here in europe, at least its worth the effort.

You are a fucking legend. Grats on the awards and it's cool that you were formally shown some appreciation/recognition for your work, we ofc knew long before that that you are the real deal Just please consider a return to LP at some point, i know you mostly prefer american-style porn and that LP can be hard and taxing sometimes, but it's really the perfect setting to showcase your badassery in full Just go and own that place again, like you know you can and already did, no prisoners taken-style.

[teschio]

Pastaga,
so i write, sometimes repetitive, because I hope that LP will produce videos with more guys (10/15) for our beautiful girls ..... uhmmmm... ahahahahah
I know so many friends that think like me .... : -)

But you think that this bothersome to someone? : -(

[magizi877]

oh snap!

15 scenes at once, that would be a movie to behold. LOL

so funny.

Anyways, I guess congratulations are in order.

[Tastes Like Ass]

And im not being spoiled by american producers.

That's good to hear!

Working in america is way more difficult than here in europe...

OK Misha, if you say so. I guess the American companies just edit out all the hard stuff before they release it.

[maigay]

Wow..please xxx book Misha....no 15 scene? one scene with 15 guys on 1 will be OK

[IIdarksoulII]

Somehow the light returned back to this thread. How unexpected and beautiful.

Misha, we miss you!

[DP-Lover]

Wow..please xxx book Misha....no 15 scene? one scene with 15 guys on 1 will be OK

ohh yeah, 15 loads on her gorgeous face and she scoops it all in her mouth and sends Down a huge mouthful.

[gerdsen]

nice to hear from the lovely Misha herself here. I hope LP can book her in some scenes while she is in europe. She is a legend

[150172]

Please book Misha when she is in Europe

[xxx]

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[xxx]

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