Gonzo.com director critic : Proxy Paige

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Postby BelleClaireCreme » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:54 am

Please do not allow Proxy to act as a camera operator any further. Her last 2 scenes were full of bad angles and bad creative decisions. To make it worse, they both featured Belle Claire (and one with Ria Sunn), two of the most beautiful models ever. I was looking forward to these scenes, but they were largely ruined by Proxy's bad directing and camera work.

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Postby dap-addict » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:53 am

Any outline ofwhat bugs you more precisely than?

I though she brought in some really fresh wind in SZ1660.

It just seemed to me that Proxy directed only the start and the finish, in the middle whith most of the fucking the director had a man's voice however. :confused:
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Postby kidloco2 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:55 pm

I wouldn't say there are all bad angels, I was able to see pussy, ass, etc.

The real problem is her camera is shaky as hell. She can't keep it steady and was too much time spent in high position (above action)
which looked like a bird perpective. She needs to learn.
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Postby dap-addict » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:02 am

The Verona Sky scene (SZ1664) is much better. :)
Again, however, I have the feeling that Proxy is directing only at the beginning and that she passes that job over to a guy about 5min into the 4on1 scene.
Who is he?
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Proxy does a lot of talking from the off as if she was the most important in that scene. Interesting concept, though.
MU was quite bad in this one. But no shaky camera for sure! :)
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Postby magizi877 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:46 am

This might be a coincidence, but in all proxy directed scenes that I have noticed,
the ladies are sporting a pony tail hair style. And I have skipped all her scenes, for that reason alone :o

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Postby drevokocur66 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:23 am

magizi87 wrote:This might be a coincidence, but in all proxy directed scenes that I have noticed,
the ladies are sporting a pony tail hair style. And I have skipped all her scenes, for that reason alone :o


The Ria Sunn scene with Belle, the hair in a bun is fucking FANTASTIC! I hope for a nice piss version of Ria Sunn with that hair style.
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Postby random! » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:46 pm

only thing I noticed off the bat is how different the lighting is.
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Postby kidloco2 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:05 pm

Technically the scene is a complete disaster. :mad:

This is supposed to be a competition to sites like Blacked, Babes, Porndoepremium? Hahahahahaha
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Postby random! » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:39 am

the last 2 weren't bad.
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Postby dap-addict » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:52 pm

random! wrote:the last 2 weren't bad.

Right! :)
I am also praing the fresh air Proxy brings into gonzo shots.
But than that 4on2 with Inga Devil and Daphne Klyde was much worse again. :( :confused:

I just post my mini-review from the models section. IF Proxy reads this, please dont feel offended, but take it with as much humor as Inga does her job here! ;)
Still, please re-think some of your decisions for SZ1656, please!

From Inga Devils model tread:
dap-addict wrote:Here trailer and official screencap info didnt deceive me like in Belle/Ria's Proxy scene! :confused: :)

Now for Inga Devil as I said DAP is really short, around 3min, but I'd still get it just for Inga. She's so relaxed and joyful here, really heart warming! :)
I also really like her new tattooes. Proxy presents her very well-groomed - as usually with very body conscious Inga. Some nice chemistry with Mike Angelo here!
Dont get it for Ingas DAP, though. rcdap is butchered short takes only, same for pile. Only cgdap is sort of fine, but far byond her former DAP-ability.

Daphne Klyde is less expressive, just less experienced and thats visible, but she takes it like a trooper. Almost 4min of DAP - a really good workout for her! :cool:
For both girls we get some really nice body-stocking tearing! :cool:

Now Proxy as a director:
I was hopeful after her Verona Sky (SZ1664) scene but this more difficult 4on2 was obviousely was too much of a challange for her.
Catching two girls action at once is always tricky, but here the camera several times looses focus, there are erratic moves, the worst of it pinning to Inga licking Mike's ass at the very moment of Daphnes rcdap breakin'. WTF! :mad: :( For me this one (39th min.) shows that Proxy didnt realize yet she is shooting porn for a men's public predominantly.
MU is also a bit too heavy here.
Body stockings might sure find some fetish lovers, not really mine either, but tearing them down was good fun!
Again we have that fun feel - and thats a fine change! :)

All in all I would have wished to watch Daphne's SZ DAPbreakin more focused.
Inga for a change was more relaxed working for Roxy, though. She looks quite often stressed on set.

dap-addict wrote:dap-a fetsh stats:
Daphne: 3-4mins of DAP, 2 positions, no porn orgasms, but also no apparent DAP-ability problems, DP intro for DAP
Inga: 3 min of DAP, 3 positions, good eye-contact, DP intro for DAP. Inga may have lost her high DAP-ability during her porn break and needs to train again.

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Some nice simultanous DAP footage in SZ1665 by Proxy.


Btw, no apparent Proxy director assistant in this film.

dap-addict wrote:Some screencaps to illustrate some of the above review points - or just to enjoy: :)

Image dap-a cap
Inga is the first one to get fucked after the b/g bj intro. STA = bingo!


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Daphne goes almost straight into DP! Also very nice, but what makes that arm here? Proxy's I guess...


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Inga dapped to turn that workout into one of these still rare simultanous DAP scenes.


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Really love Ingas new tattoos and her jolly way to perform DAP now!


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Inga gets her body stocking torn for a better view of her body and tits. Daphne hoovering over to suck them while still getting dapped.


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Cgdap anchor Mike taking her ass alone fucking Inga into orgiastic spasms.


Min 39ff - Daphne in rcdap: - Is this still ment to be porn for predominantly male hetero public?

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DAPbreakin' while EE is anchoring. Nice facial reaction by the Ukrainian cutie.


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Now tearing up her body stocking while she gets full speed dapped. Just so hot!!!


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Proxy as director: Now lets see whats happening there... Pinning that camera on Inga licking Mikes ass. (Urrrgh! I save you that screen!)


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Camera goes back to Daphne, who is almost naked by now. All the tearing went missing. WTF!? (all 10 caps from SZ1665)
dap-addict wrote:Now finally the cum-shots: :)
For me its still a crucial part in all porn films, although I am getting less focussed on it over years of watching porn.

At gonzo we got sort of used to have small and often lackluster cum-shots. Still the arrangement of that classical porn finish is still important to me. And here Proxy fails the most visibly. :( Again, could be a girls POV of porn directing, just a guess, though. Anyway some common sense still should be kept, like getting both girls involved. But here again Proxy fails. :confused:

Curious how others feel about?
:confused:


Anyway, some caps to explain:

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1st cum-shot: Mike Angelo the lazy lad, I'd say. Mike loves this position, which is highly unfavorable in porn terms because of gravity.
Also who is interested in cum flying on his torso instead of the girl?! WTF! Had it with Verona I think, why did Proxy allow this again?


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(Allged) 2nd cumshot: Creampies is the best and easiest way to hide a non-shot or use fake-cum. To avoid it any good dirctor makes the girl push it out after its done.This footage is missing. I'd say a rare zero for Ian. But who knows? - Btw, good point in fetish terms: Look at that heel on the floor! Nice detail!


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3rd cum-shot: Meagre but nice eye-contact.


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4th cum-shot: Quite a load for EE!


Now where was Daphne Klyde during all these 4 shots? Right, EE fucked her when Ian allegedly filled Ingas ass up. Inga even says: "I wanna fill you my ass!"LOL!
And than? I got a glimpse of her stocking on the blue sofa when Inga received her 2 facials. What would you expect now: Right, Daphne didnt get any goo directly, but Inga will share some with her now. gg fetish lovers will get some kissing etc. What does otherwise lez affine Proxy do? Camera just lingers 1-2s on Inga and than turns black. WTF?! :mad: :confused:

Cum-shots summarized: Poor Daphne! :(


And from Daphne Klyde's model tread:
dap-addict wrote:Daphne Klyde is less expressive, just less experienced and thats visible, but she takes it like a trooper. Almost 4min of DAP - a really good workout for her! :cool:
After her porngeek interview I expected a bit she'd get lost in this scene, but sadly not, guess due to that SZ DAPintro and maybe haveing a very expressive Inga as co-star. Anyway, Proxy should have instructed her to be a bit more vocal and at least pretend some orgasms!
For both girls we get some really nice body-stocking tearing! :cool:

Now Proxy as a director:
I was hopeful after her Verona Sky (SZ1664) scene but this more difficult 4on2 was obviousely was too much of a challange for her. (...)
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Postby JohnMcSpunkencock » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:49 am

Proxy is doing ok. She's experimenting to find her angle of direction and at least has the guts to experiment. I'm sure she'll settle into what she wants and what the fans want soon
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Postby BelleClaireCreme » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:48 pm

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The masks in her most recent scene are STUPID. They could've ruined the scene, but fortunately they came off sooner rather than later. Also, the scene feels very disjointed and does not have the fluidity of older LP scenes. I was looking forward to this scene, but it was disappointing.

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Postby vlatava393 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:13 pm

Good Work, Proxy, and very important: BTS!! Can you realize more multipe facials at the end of scene? Thanks!

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Postby kidloco2 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:27 pm

The same major camera positioning complaint as goes to Gonzo studio:

1. The camera stays too often on the side in respect to the action, must be moved more in the center.
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2. The camera is too often angled (rotated) in positions where it is not really necessary / useful.
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Postby Kriss1986 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:18 pm

kidloco2 wrote:The same major camera positioning complaint as goes to Gonzo studio:

1. The camera stays too often on the side in respect to the action, must be moved more in the center.
cam_position_01.jpg

2. The camera is too often angled (rotated) in positions where it is not really necessary / useful.


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Postby hjohjole » Sat May 13, 2017 11:54 pm

I really liked Proxys latest scene with Stephanie Moon. It had a very intimate atmosphere to it that works really well with this type of zero pussy scene.

I especially liked the part where the guys passes her ass back and forth between each other.

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Postby utopiaa » Mon May 15, 2017 4:36 pm

I agree, this latest Stephanie Moon scene was really good. Good Job.

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Postby Angel Eyes » Tue May 30, 2017 1:45 am

I've been a rather harsh critic of Proxy's directing skills. I found her first scene to be a jumbled mess. I swore never to buy one of her scenes. Then, along comes Kristy Black shooting for Proxy. Well, Kristy's one of my 'must have every scene' girls so I took a chance on it: https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32612/kristy_black_dap_dap_dap_first_time_firsting_sz1743

To my surprise, it is a great scene! Proxy set up a relaxed atmosphere where everyone involved appeared to be having a good time. Her camerawork was steadier and held shots capturing the action longer for the viewer to build focus. For me, porn is all about being drawn into the scene. There shouldn't be a lot of jump cuts and camera shake as that takes me out of the scene. This was a GIANT improvement over Proxy's earliest work as a director.

Well done Proxy!
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Postby kidloco2 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:34 pm

Chazzum wrote:I've been a rather harsh critic of Proxy's directing skills. I found her first scene to be a jumbled mess. I swore never to buy one of her scenes. Then, along comes Kristy Black shooting for Proxy. Well, Kristy's one of my 'must have every scene' girls so I took a chance on it: https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32612/kristy_black_dap_dap_dap_first_time_firsting_sz1743

To my surprise, it is a great scene! Proxy set up a relaxed atmosphere where everyone involved appeared to be having a good time. Her camerawork was steadier and held shots capturing the action longer for the viewer to build focus. For me, porn is all about being drawn into the scene. There shouldn't be a lot of jump cuts and camera shake as that takes me out of the scene. This was a GIANT improvement over Proxy's earliest work as a director.

Well done Proxy!


I don't share your opinion:

https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=10210&p=146479#p146479

Proxy if you're reading this, I'm sorry, but you need to improve your camera and directing skills by 1000 or drop it. Also the harsh lighting is just stupid. Your scenes are unwatchable for me so far.
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Postby Sazz » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:23 pm

The first Holly Hendrix scene is badly directed and I'd much rather see another director doing her scenes. Doesn't even look much like LP. Why is it outside? Porn isn't about outside scenery. The camera is too close to the performers during the action. This ain't the 80s or the '90s porn with mostly close-ups. Pull back the camera a little and let the action breathe at a comfortable distance so with get the full sense of the action. Don't try to re-define LP angles or the way it looks. Fans liked it because of the way it looked before. IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. She's trying to, and you're letting her.

And LP should know this and not let it happen. The experiment of her directing was tried and failed. Use someone who can make scenes look the way they did before. That's why LP became popular. Don't change the look. Use another director.

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Postby xxx » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:50 pm

For constructive criticism it would be useful to include captures or even animated gifs.

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Postby HwtOxc8K » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:26 pm

Sazz wrote:The first Holly Hendrix scene is badly directed and I'd much rather see another director doing her scenes. Doesn't even look much like LP. Why is it outside? Porn isn't about outside scenery. The camera is too close to the performers during the action. This ain't the 80s or the '90s porn with mostly close-ups. Pull back the camera a little and let the action breathe at a comfortable distance so with get the full sense of the action. Don't try to re-define LP angles or the way it looks. Fans liked it because of the way it looked before. IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. She's trying to, and you're letting her.


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Postby matnr1 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:51 am

Give her some time jeez.. calm ur fkin tits already

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Postby kidloco2 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:16 pm

mattias_nr_1 wrote:Give her some time jeez.. calm ur fkin tits already


No problem, but make them free ticket. Or you buy a regular decent family car at renowned dealership but the car turns out
to be a complete disaster and when you complain, would it be ok if they will just say to you: "Give a manufacturer some time jeez"? :mad:
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Postby kidloco2 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:17 pm

When people are learning something (Proxy surely is at the beginning), they do it usually for free or volunteer, got it?
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Postby kidloco2 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:59 am

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Postby Massafera » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:16 am

My tip would be to pay attention is the ammount of close ups. Don't be like Luis and make 99% of the scene only on closeups, it's annoying. I like when the camera is back a little so we can see all the action, all the models and everything it's happening. I think close ups are good but only in the right ammount. Recentely on your videos we can see that you are improving! I personally thought you were a great addition to the team.

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Postby kidloco2 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:52 am

ppl are lazy to click so I'm reposting my cutsheet here as well:
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Postby matnr1 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:52 am

kidloco2 wrote:
mattias_nr_1 wrote:Give her some time jeez.. calm ur fkin tits already


Or you buy a regular decent family car at renowned dealership but the car turns out
to be a complete disaster and when you complain, would it be ok if they will just say to you: "Give a manufacturer some time jeez"? :mad:

You are taking my statement and putting it out of context. Please, stop putting my statements out of context.

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Postby geralt_ » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:47 pm

I just think it's unfair to complain about the angles, sure there's different preferences.

But for me with those Proxy scenes I've bought I really like that it's a bit different, different positions, different angles.
That awkward angle piledriwer position is cool, means that it's a new way of seeing it be done on cam.


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