Should we do gonzo all-inclusive memberships?

[xxx]

I'm considering trying them soon it but it's risky. They would work similarly to GP's.

[pastaga]

What would be the price for a Gonzo (or even IV or Giorgio) membership ?
Just curious...

Do you have stats about the average scenes bought by members monthly ? Or in tokens spent ? For each studio ?

[klapphatt]

i think maybe it would be more cheap to get a EvilAngel membership,i mean,its the almost the same girls is it impossiple to
get new young Euro girls these days?i want some more Nicole Black types,not overused US sluts,Syren DE Mer,for got sake,she has been around for ages

[xxx]

What would be the price for a Gonzo (or even IV or Giorgio) membership ?
Just curious...

Do you have stats about the average scenes bought by members monthly ? Or in tokens spent ? For each studio ?

It would be a very classic $30 I think for a start.

[kidloco2]

It's kinda oldschool. I like TKT system and membership. When it started years ago, it was a breakthru innovation.

[magizi877]

An all-access Gonzo subscription would be interesting for me, most of the scenes I purchase are from Gonzo.

I really appreciate that about 80% of their production is about scenes with just one model and any number of guys.
I also like that with the same amount of TKT I can usually get a few more scenes than I would otherwise get from other studios.
Perhaps most important for me is that Luis still directs the guys to fuck all the women's holes, which is awesome. HEH!

BUT,

There is a but, Gonzo scenes are still for the most part about 3 guys and 1 girl, where Giorgio often pits the girl against a BUNCH of men.
and even though I think Gonzo scenes are superior because the sex is better in Gonzo movies, deeper, harder, more passionate, etc
and there is a ton more manhandle in the sexy way I like in Gonzo scenes,
I still buy Giorgio scenes every now and then, because he directs gangbangs and not mini-gangbangs, and he is really good with the camera.
And I, am a gangbang fan. And a 3 on 1, IS NOT A GANGBANG. (lol)

So, I would still need TKT for Giorgio every now and again and at $30 a month,
either that or Gonzo starts making more gangbangs, hahaha!

Seriously tho,

If I were to hypothetically subscribe to the $30 a month Gonzo plan,
it sounds $10 more expensive than what I'm usually paying every 3 months currently at $80.
But with no tkt for Giorgio, so it might actually be worse and it is also worth mentioning
that at the moment I feel like I can watch all the scenes that I want to anyway. So there is that.

Just for perspective, I pay the annual subscription to Brazzers and even though I could watch all the scenes they make.
That doesn't mean I do that. I still just watch the scenes with the models that I like.
And I would also add that I watch a lot less Brazzers scenes than LP scenes.
(Mostly because American pornstars, almost all have "fake" something or a bush, which means I don't watch a ton of scenes).

But I digress. What I'm trying to say is, that you should have a membership plan, for people like me,
that are loyal to you, for years, and stop annoying us with TKT and just let us watch what we want,
And I promise, we don't have time to watch everything, even if we wanted to.

Except for maybe retired people who don't work anymore and probably don't have to worry about raising a family.
Those people probably have all the time in the world. (jealous laughter) haha!

And why is this so risky anyways, if the numbers don't go in your favor just roll back to how it was.
Put a disclaimer "this subscription is experimental and could be canceled at any time without notice",
or any of that legal mumbo-jumbo that people "agree" to without reading to safeguard your bottom line.

[drevokocur66]

What would be the price for a Gonzo (or even IV or Giorgio) membership ?
Just curious...

Do you have stats about the average scenes bought by members monthly ? Or in tokens spent ? For each studio ?

It would be a very classic $30 I think for a start.

I would pay that for a dedicated wet content anal studio. But depends on the amount of updates per month.

[dpconnoisseur1]

As a longtime member I don't agree with this change just like I didn't agree with the policy change to offer free scenes. Every policy change that has been enacted has been to attract or for the benefit of new customers with absolutely no benefit for the longtime customers. The reason I bring this is old gripe up is that I still have over 772 free tickets with nothing to use them on and should have more if not for stopping my reoccurring membership. I now only recharge 120 tickets every time I run out. Anyway to get back to the question asked here are my reasons to disapprove of this policy change:

(1) I assume you will reduce weekly quantity of scenes released from 5 to only 1, which I already dislike being reduced from 7 weekly to 5. Gonzo is my favorite studio so daily releases are preferred.
(2) New subscribers will most likely have access to the entire Gonzo catalog of scenes something that longtime customers had to pay a steep price to collect over the years.
(3) It makes the whole ticket model seem like a scam to overcharge customers if Gonzo can continue the same business as usual but with a subscription model something than we were told was necessary so that LP could produce the current quantity and quality of scenes being offered.

If my assumptions above are correct, it just seems like another slap in the face to longtime customers!

[Sir Noel]

I think it is a bad idea. It sounds like the customer is getting a lot for less, in reality I believw they will get a lot less, ultimately, for less.
Vast majority of porn sites operate on this kind of model and they cannot afford to make the number of scenes this site does. Most people will just join for a month, leech your whole back catalogue then leave. Maybe rejoin for one month a year later to do the same again.

In my view what LP needs to do is sell its videos better. Every other site makes a big thing of the latest and greatest scenes with a well presented homepage. Legalporno looks thrown together and hasn't aesthetically improved it's "shop window" in years.

[xxx]

I am not talking about a membership that would give you every past scene, but a month at a time.

[tekaneo]

$30 for having access for EVERY single Gonzo release inside their monthly pay? I mean you pay $30 and you dont need to spend tks for download new scenes and when your month ends you need to pay $30 more like other XXX website?

What i dont get is: if you dont give access to the old content, users only have access to their actual month and nothing more and what happens if they dont like nothing that Gonzo released in their payed month? wasted money?

Can you explain a little bit more?

[utopiaa]

Membership with 30 days with no back catalogue could be a bit confusing maybe, considering many people are confused of the ticket system already. Maybe Gonzo/other studios could sell packages which lets you get X amount of scenes from that studio regardless of the ticket cost.

[utopiaa]

Or make separate membership where you get access to all older scenes, like all scenes 1 year old older, or something like that.

[xxx]

Currently with the GP memberships you get 3 months worth of scenes with your first $30 : last 30 days + next 30 days + days 31-60 before you joined (1 day at a time).

After that you get 2 months worth of scenes each month (current month + one older).

So if you like many of our gonzo scenes that's a huge discount. If not, well, fuck you and stick to the TKT system :P

[utopiaa]

I guess the amount of scenes released would stay the same?

[magizi877]

As a longtime member I don't agree with this change just like I didn't agree with the policy change to offer free scenes. Every policy change that has been enacted has been to attract or for the benefit of new customers with absolutely no benefit for the longtime customers. The reason I bring this is old gripe up is that I still have over 772 free tickets with nothing to use them on and should have more if not for stopping my reoccurring membership. I now only recharge 120 tickets every time I run out. Anyway to get back to the question asked here are my reasons to disapprove of this policy change:

(1) I assume you will reduce weekly quantity of scenes released from 5 to only 1, which I already dislike being reduced from 7 weekly to 5. Gonzo is my favorite studio so daily releases are preferred.
(2) New subscribers will most likely have access to the entire Gonzo catalog of scenes something that longtime customers had to pay a steep price to collect over the years.
(3) It makes the whole ticket model seem like a scam to overcharge customers if Gonzo can continue the same business as usual but with a subscription model something than we were told was necessary so that LP could produce the current quantity and quality of scenes being offered.

If my assumptions above are correct, it just seems like another slap in the face to longtime customers!

It sounds like XXX is considering offering an optional plan instead of buying scenes through tkt.

[RedBaron]

TKT system is the best way to pay for the customer and the seller because you only the scenes you like and the seller can see which content is best.
Please do not destroy the best at LP!!!

[oA_Ao]

I like the ticket system very much.

[dpconnoisseur1]

Currently with the GP memberships you get 3 months worth of scenes with your first $30 : last 30 days + next 30 days + days 31-60 before you joined (1 day at a time).

After that you get 2 months worth of scenes each month (current month + one older).

So if you like many of our gonzo scenes that's a huge discount. If not, well, fuck you and stick to the TKT system :P

The main problem with this possible policy change is that longtime loyal members of Gonzo studio just like you said above get fucked

Well I can only speak for myself and I believe it is a BAD idea. This is why from my personal viewpoint:

1470 scenes is Gonzo total catalog
1312 scenes I Own
------
0158 scenes that I was not interested in buying

*** looking through the 158 scenes that I don't own there is probably 12 scenes that I may buy after all ***

So what huge discount does a member like me get ? It just seems that I threw my money in a fireplace and burnt it for no reason with this policy change. This policy change does not make any sense if LP customer base is constantly growing like management claims. Why the change now when we were told the only way to maintain the frequent scene releases and quality of scenes for the uncommon fetishes like DP, DA, DV, TP and TA that LP shoots, there was a need for the ticket system ? Anyway that is my honest opinion as an hopefully valued customer.

[Sir Noel]

I am not talking about a membership that would give you every past scene, but a month at a time.

Ok, so really you are selling some kind of "super ticket" that lets you buy a month of gonzo studio scenes but doesn't allow you to leech the whole back catalogue.
That makes more sense.
If you dress it up in the right way then it could work for back catalogue material too, so you could buy say ten "suoer tickets" and choose ten specific months worth of gonzo scenes from the past couple of years at discounted rates.

[hjohjole]

How about if the studio subscription is bundled together with a ticket subscription? Like you can do right now to get discounted tickets that are refilled every month.
Might be a good middle-ground if there is going to be no back catalogue. That way you would still be able to get old scenes, or scenes from other studios, with the included tickets.

Another suggestion is that subscribing to a studio could also brig you some extra features and bonuses. Maybe some fancy icon in the forum showing that you are a studio supporter. Maybe you would get to do more than 2 scene suggestions per month. I don't know, some small things like that.

Personally i wouldn't be interested in a subscription for Gonzo right now as i buy almost none of their scenes at the moment.

[dangl]

If it was like a gold membership with perks:

* A vote on the girls we want (How will a subscription model affect casting? There will be less feedback on which girls sold. Lots of girls I liked didn't come back because they "didn't sell")
* Live scene broadcasts (that can be watched any time)

Without those I would want to see:

* Increased production (But not by using B-list male talent (I would rather have two 2 on 1s than one 4 on 1). And it needs to be Luis directing.)
* More proactive talent recruitment (Somehow Giorgio scoops them all up even though he basically requires DAP and Gonzo doesn't)
* A second camera always capturing the girl's face

Otherwise I think I would prefer to choose which girls to support with tickets, as now.

[ElJab78]

Would def like to see a Gonzo only option and if its sucessful I could go for a Giorgio only subscription.

[CanadianCouple]

What would be the price for a Gonzo (or even IV or Giorgio) membership ?
Just curious...

Do you have stats about the average scenes bought by members monthly ? Or in tokens spent ? For each studio ?

It would be a very classic $30 I think for a start.

I would be up for that. The ticket system forces me to make choices on what to buy and not to buy because there is only so many dollars to go around. LP puts out a lot of great content and I have to skip some

[magizi877]

Is this initiative going anywhere anytime soon?

There are a couple of scenes I want and I'm all out of tkt at the moment.

So I'm like, should I wait for the Gonzo membership or should I reload.

[dap-addict]

It's kinda oldschool. I like TKT system and membership. When it started years ago, it was a breakthru innovation.

Me, too!
30£/mt sounds good of course.
But I like the full transparency and responsibility with fair ticket system reflection the investments in every scene of LP.
It teaches fans that 10on1 is more expensive to shoot than 3on1 and that DAP is more expensive than DP of course, also that Russian girls work for cheaper than US imports etc. It just teaches such a lot about the porn bts, which of course not fans care about at all, but those who do, it just gives them more. Its much more sustainable and responsible as well.

[kidloco2]

^ There's one big flaw. If you pay
that way there's nothing to stop studios intentionally rising the TKT/USD price for a particular scene, claiming as an excuse it had higher production cost. Since 99% of ppl don't know the true cost nor even care about it may be abused, with no better transparency at all.

The good thing is it's a way to shoot possibly good anal sex scenes (even DAP) with cheap local models.
Paying for a scene is great for occasional low volume users, not for seasoned LP consumers.

Traditional flatrate charging per month is more fair and easily comparable to other sites.

I like studio memberships idea with only one exception - I would very welcome if LP can make a discount if you get two or more studio membership. Let's say for 25$ each.

[dap-addict]

^ There's one big flaw. If you pay
that way there's nothing to stop studios intentionally rising the TKT/USD price for a particular scene, claiming as an excuse it had higher production cost. Since 99% of ppl don't know the true cost nor even care about it may be abused, with no better transparency at all.

I would trust on LP here.
Past few years have shown they are fair on this with tkts charged.
Only exception is IV which is flat rate already, just in tkt mode. And gonzo X-mas scenes, which are a reasonbale exception.

[Notforcommon]

I personally would buy the shit out of an all access gonzo account or giorgio. the ticket system is much more expensive and precludes me from really accessing all the content that looks appealing on there. i know plenty that feel the same way.

[alekseich]

I think it is good idea. Because gonzo studio - is best in the world. You guys do amazing job, and even below wverage girls from other studios on your sets looking like queens, keep going

[ElJab78]

This thread was from 5 years ago. I am guessing XXX had no interest in doing this?

[zeusanalfreak299]

30$ per month would be worth it. If they release 2-3 scenes per week. I would give them a try for 3 months and see if the models are worth it and if my favs are considered.
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