Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

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Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:30 pm

IV078 & IV079 (both with Angel Karyna and Kira Noir) cost 12tkt for 105min!
I'm I the only one to think thats really very steep a price?

I get the reason why GIO has to split scenes with considerable extra investment like renting a special place, having extra people on set or a split dictated by the action. But here we have just 2 girls paired with the usual BBC and in the usual IV studio. No extra investment, apart from the fact that US Kira Noir is sure more expensive to book for DAP and fisting than the Moldavian MILF Angel Karyna. I'd easily pay 6tkt for that whole scene, but asked for 12 tkts feels like somebody abusing a possibility just to get more money out of the fan.

Yet another guess: Most IV scenes dont sell fine anyway. Do you wanna compensate missing profits by spliiting the scenes now?
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Better option might be to start listeing to your customers!
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Kriss1986 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:41 pm

dap-addict wrote:IV078 & IV079 (both with Angel Karyna and Kira Noir) cost 12tkt for 105min!
I'm I the only one to think thats really very steep a price?

I get the reason why GIO has to split scenes with considerable extra investment like renting a special place, having extra people on set or a split dictated by the action. But here we have just 2 girls paired with the usual BBC and in the usual IV studio. No extra investment, apart from the fact that US Kira Noir is sure more expensive to book for DAP and fisting than the Moldavian MILF Angel Karyna. I'd easily pay 6tkt for that whole scene, but asked for 12 tkts feels like somebody abusing a possibility just to get more money out of the fan.

Yet another guess: Most IV scenes dont sell fine anyway. Do you wanna compensate missing profits by spliiting the scenes now?
:confused:
Better option might be to start listeing to your customers!


Price always should depends on quality and let's face it, quality of IV scenes leaves much to be desired to put it mildly. I'm able to pay extra price but content needs to be better than my expectations. We shouldn't even think about comparison GG and IV because IV is far far behind GG, it's like hundreds of light years. Mr Giorgio is virtuosso and he proved it multiple times producing exceptional good videos with awesome actions and scenarios while IV didn't show nothing special. I don't know what they are thinking but it's not step in good direction.
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby magizi87 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:22 am

I agree with DAP-Addict in regards to the aggressive pricing.

12 tkt for a scene that kinda looks ordinary is just abusive as OP puts it.
The first "part" almost has no intercourse in the screenshots and I thought -they want 6 tkt for "this"?!

I go to a hardcore website to watch: men nailing beautiful women, that's it.
I care zip about girl on girl action. To me that's bonus material at best.
But in that scene, the first part is mostly girl on girl action.
So the male on female part, was the bonus material. You guys misunderstand your audience so badly.

There is a reason why Gonzo decided to terminate their lesbian series.
Sineplex promised they would continue to film them, but there was not enough people supporting that,
because even them, simply didn't put out any significant amount of said content, in fact I can only remember one attempt as their nod to that crowd.

Now the second part, IV079, looks more in line with what I like, but here is the catch.
If I buy it, I'm gonna feel it's missing the first part and I'm simply not gonna blow 30% of my tkt monthly budget, into one scene. (12 divided by 40 is 0.3) 0.3 is 30%

That is just stupid decision making for me. Not gonna buy something that makes me feel like an idiot.

And if that isn't enough, 2 girl scenes, don't hold any replay value for me.
Meaning if I watch a 2 girl scene, 99.99% of the time, I forget about it in around 2 days.
That's pretty much worthless right there.

Simply, if you have two girls in one scene, you also need two directors. Because one will just miss crucial action.
And you need actors who can actually make it work. Make it look like they can actually handle two, hot babes at once.
Like Nacho for instance:

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I had to go back, 3 YEARS, to find a 2 girl scene. I actually like.

JUST SAYING.
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Kriss1986 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:23 pm

magizi87 wrote:I agree with DAP-Addict in regards to the aggressive pricing.

12 tkt for a scene that kinda looks ordinary is just abusive as OP puts it.
The first "part" almost has no intercourse in the screenshots and I thought -they want 6 tkt for "this"?!

I go to a hardcore website to watch: men nailing beautiful women, that's it.
I care zip about girl on girl action. To me that's bonus material at best.
But in that scene, the first part is mostly girl on girl action.
So the male on female part, was the bonus material. You guys misunderstand your audience so badly.

There is a reason why Gonzo decided to terminate their lesbian series.
Sineplex promised they would continue to film them, but there was not enough people supporting that,
because even them, simply didn't put out any significant amount of said content, in fact I can only remember one attempt as their nod to that crowd.

Now the second part, IV079, looks more in line with what I like, but here is the catch.
If I buy it, I'm gonna feel it's missing the first part and I'm simply not gonna blow 30% of my tkt monthly budget, into one scene. (12 divided by 40 is 0.3) 0.3 is 30%

That is just stupid decision making for me. Not gonna buy something that makes me feel like an idiot.

And if that isn't enough, 2 girl scenes, don't hold any replay value for me.
Meaning if I watch a 2 girl scene, 99.99% of the time, I forget about it in around 2 days.
That's pretty much worthless right there.

Simply, if you have two girls in one scene, you also need two directors. Because one will just miss crucial action.
And you need actors who can actually make it work. Make it look like they can actually handle two, hot babes at once.
Like Nacho for instance:

Image Image

Image Image

I had to go back, 3 YEARS, to find a 2 girl scene. I actually like.

JUST SAYING.


It's a great statement precisely described IV issues!
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby timjom » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:33 pm

Just based on the trailer, looks like the new Brittany Bardot/Lucy Angel scene is another 6 ticket per half scene, with the first half just being some lesbian stuff and then a little bit of dick sucking at the end.

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby blackmanwhat350 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:30 pm

Pricing scheme for their content is ridiculously so unless you have unlimited money laying around I would suggest viewers to only pick a few of their favourite models doing IR or extremely rare Kira Noir DAP since you can't any scene of her doing that anywhere else yet. That only I will pay Part 2. Fisting portion on Part 1 you are better off getting her from Kink's Everythingbutt who does fisting justice to US models. This splitting version need to stop unless it is big budget/production multi-scene showcase. Fans and viewers will figure it out eventually and stop buying their content. I use to love Sineplex back in the day now I rarely buy any of their content. I'm already one foot out and the door. You guys better listening to feedbacks from your paying customers or else.

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby kidloco2 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:00 pm

IMHO the price is crazy just because Joakim demands high revenue. He's hungry boy and he tries to trick customers to think that latest scenes feature something special, but it's not. Splitting shot material is the oldest directors' trick.

Additionally his latest scenes are the worst ones he shot in a few years. Far worst then even some of his cuckold stuff he sold for Combat Zone or other studios.

He makes a big mistake, to act and not shoot and direct, he probably can't resist and fully participates in the scenes while he should do the camera
and direct the scene.
Really bad amateurish camera shots and cuts right there. Not worth any TKT for me. Plus his scenes completely omits gapes, which is a no no for me.
Really pitty I liked his old stuff.
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Kriss1986 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:24 pm

kidloco2 wrote:IMHO the price is crazy just because Joakim demands high revenue. He's hungry boy and he tries to trick customers to think that latest scenes feature something special, but it's not. Splitting shot material is the oldest directors' trick.

Additionally his latest scenes are the worst ones he shot in a few years. Far worst then even some of his cuckold stuff he sold for Combat Zone or other studios.

He makes a big mistake, to act and not shoot and direct, he probably can't resist and fully participates in the scenes while he should do the camera
and direct the scene.
Really bad amateurish camera shots and cuts right there. Not worth any TKT for me. Plus his scenes completely omits gapes, which is a no no for me.
Really pitty I liked his old stuff.


I'm with you mate! IV is a great example how to not manage the biz. This shitty strategy will revenge on them soon.
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:13 am

IV095/096 and now IV100
Again and again! :(

Also just dont get it why with such a shitty attitude towads the customers he gets the girls first so often? :confused: :mad:
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Kriss1986 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:57 pm

dap-addict wrote:IV095/096 and now IV100
Again and again! :(

Also just dont get it why with such a shitty attitude towads the customers he gets the girls first so often? :confused: :mad:


Maybe it's matter of some magic tricks ;).

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Slayer21 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:45 am

Bad, bad studio, cuting scenes in bad point, when you MUST buy the second part, and the same mistake of this Legal Porno site...THE HORRIBLE BRA COVERING THE FRINKING BOOBS! like this last one https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33121/ ... rt_2_iv101
You people who come to this forums don´t care about complain, they don´t give a &"%$ what your opinion is, I did just to vent.

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Kriss1986 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:55 pm

Slayer21 wrote:Bad, bad studio, cuting scenes in bad point, when you MUST buy the second part, and the same mistake of this Legal Porno site...THE HORRIBLE BRA COVERING THE FRINKING BOOBS! like this last one https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33121/ ... rt_2_iv101
You people who come to this forums don´t care about complain, they don´t give a &"%$ what your opinion is, I did just to vent.


It's hard to not agree with you. You pointed main issues of IV. I must admit, covering boobs during whole scene is some kind of madness!
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Slayer21 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:49 am

Yeah Kriss and thx, and to add something, I am agree LP have the good very hard anal action in porn, but dude, did you see the clothes, some outfits are good, but almost all the time they wear their models like 70´s porn with panthyhose, ugly shoes, ugly lace outfits, they should take a look to amaerican productions, us pornstars wearing hot bikinis, hot shoes, hot outfits, I won´t post images of them cus is useless how I said, they don´t give a &%$ what we say, just tell you If I were a porn director working for LP I would sweep with some directors here and level up the sales, I bet some of you do too. Bye.

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Kriss1986 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:10 pm

Slayer21 wrote:Yeah Kriss and thx, and to add something, I am agree LP have the good very hard anal action in porn, but dude, did you see the clothes, some outfits are good, but almost all the time they wear their models like 70´s porn with panthyhose, ugly shoes, ugly lace outfits, they should take a look to amaerican productions, us pornstars wearing hot bikinis, hot shoes, hot outfits, I won´t post images of them cus is useless how I said, they don´t give a &%$ what we say, just tell you If I were a porn director working for LP I would sweep with some directors here and level up the sales, I bet some of you do too. Bye.


Well they even don't need to look to american productions, great example of awesome outfits can be found in SOS productions. They knew how to dress girls in proper way.
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Slayer21 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:03 am

Now almost all the vids here are 2 parts, abusive spliting, oh yeah.

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Kriss1986 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:34 pm

Slayer21 wrote:Now almost all the vids here are 2 parts, abusive spliting, oh yeah.


It is what it is... They chose own path...
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby dap-addict » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:21 pm

Yeah!
Dec 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 25th
Nov 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 23rd

Either Joachim is content with minimum profit, or his limp co-fuckers work for free or he has invented a business perpetuum mobile! :)
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby Kriss1986 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:56 pm

dap-addict wrote:Yeah!
Dec 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 25th
Nov 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 23rd

Either Joachim is content with minimum profit, or his limp co-fuckers work for free or he has invented a business perpetuum mobile! :)
:confused:


2018 :confused: ? Probably you meant 2017 :D. Anyway the rankings speaks for itself...
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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby ponteEN4 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:24 pm

Kriss1986 wrote:
dap-addict wrote:IV095/096 and now IV100
Again and again! :(

Also just dont get it why with such a shitty attitude towads the customers he gets the girls first so often? :confused: :mad:


Maybe it's matter of some magic tricks ;).

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby visigoth2020111 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:08 pm

there are useless
now is a matter of time before they disappeared

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby visigoth2020111 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:15 pm

dap-addict wrote:Yeah!
Dec 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 25th
Nov 2018: Best rank for an IV scene - 23rd

Either Joachim is content with minimum profit, or his limp co-fuckers work for free or he has invented a business perpetuum mobile! :)
:confused:


or he is laundering money
so ill ask the FBI and Interpol to look this guy up,cause he is making 0 profit on a business
that should have been gone long time ago
how can someone pay this lady's with 0 sales

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Re: Abusive scene spliiting on IV?

Postby subwhtbot » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:17 pm

I've bought all the better quality IR videos on LP, but none of the 2-parters. They're too expensive, and it has me thinking about not renewing my 3 month membership when expires in a few days.


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