Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

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Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby American Anal » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:47 am

ok guys im interested in knowing why did my sheena scene tank what factors caused it to rate so low

does any think i should change up the intro and have something scripted ??
whats up with glam shit there putting out now LP is trying tonput out 3-4 scenes a day does any one like this glam shit

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby hjohjole » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:08 am

No, no one likes the glam shit. :D It has had quite the backlash here on the forum.

About the scene. The action looks extremely good. A huge step in the right direction and i just love that its 0% pussy. If it flopped i think it is mainly because the choice of model. That is the only reason i didn't get it anyway.
She didn't have a models thread here prior to the scene and not many have been writing in her thread after its release. If i search her name in the forum i can only find one single user requesting her back in 2015.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby J.Carl2 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:32 am

nah glam shit is mentally retarded.
i didn't buy cause i don't find her very attractive, simple enough. plus nothing too exciting in the preview other than the usual actions/positions done with the other girls i like better.
you should get jillian back I think her vid is top 3 all time on LP, and the other vids in the top 5 have had much more time to generate sales.
I know you don't get paid extra for having the top vids on the site, But you fucking Should! your making the best product on LP right now
Also just to bring some names back into your mind pls try and get ella nova, arya faye, lena paul, aidra fox, natalia starr, anya olsen, and megan rain (if she ever returns) on/back on a scene
maybe if you could do more than just dp with the girls you have back you might sell better than the first jillian scene (but i know for that you must get paid more by LP, the potential profit may convience some minds 'To pay that man his money.' although without knowing the numbers im just guessing)
I hope future scenes sell better for you

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby SimplyStunning » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:06 am

Didn't buy because it was 0% Pussy. Your scenes have been a great change from the no creativity 90-100% Anal crap that most LegalPorno directors are producing so it sucked as your fan to see this release when I have enjoyed the way you shot your previous scenes. Your successful scenes included unique camera angles(tunnel vision), beautiful girl newbies/veterans, intense pussy and anal sex which included the long forgotten art of ass to pussy. This scene was just another in the long line of maximum anal penetration scenes that are available on LegalPorno.

So American Anal went from shooting unique scenes to what all other producers are shooting. Simply a waste of your fans time. You will never compete with Giorgio as he already has his built base of desensitize fans that require vomit, prolapse, degrading women, spit, slapping, blowing snot in a another girl's mouth, 100% Anal, piss to get even a little erection.

So you will have to step up your debauchery in scenes to win Giorgio fan base over as you lose support for your current base. You concentrate on building your own fan base on your unique shoots. Think more Jillian Janson and Aidra Fox type scenes.
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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby Alan2008 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:11 am

SimplyStunning wrote:You concentrate on building your own fan base on your unique shoots. Think more Jillian Janson and Aidra Fox type scenes.


100% Agreed. Go for the stars that everyone wants to see. :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby American Anal » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:22 am

Alright yea thanks for the feed back i will continue shoot my style i personally dont like 100% anal just thought it would be good but now i know
and i only shot sheena cuz i was late to put something out and she was avalable and wanted DAP so thought id give it to LP but everythings a learning expierience so now i know i have
kierra croft- airtight and IRDP
monica sage -airtight and IRDP
all 4 scenes scheduled end of month
arya faye does not wanna do DP
i have Haley reed booked for airtight does not wanna do IRDP in july
Ashley adams booked for Airtight in july

anya olsen is thinking about it
ella nova booking in sept in LA
natalia star retired
cherrie deville is gonna be booked in sept in LA

sunny chase in july
her 1st IRDP
airtight

gia derza IRDP in july

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby J.Carl2 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:46 am

American Anal wrote:Alright yea thanks for the feed back i will continue shoot my style i personally dont like 100% anal just thought it would be good but now i know

i have Haley reed booked for airtight does not wanna do IRDP in july

anya olsen is thinking about it
ella nova booking in sept in LA



Yo u still the real hero out here. It is a toss up but I gotta go with Dennis Rodman for the Noble Peace Prize but your a consideration. World Peace!

yo on da real could you at least do an extensive deepthroat scene with Arya Faye? (she did a scene or two for hookuphotshot)
also I gotta throw in another suggestion. Carolina Sweets?

100% anal isn't a bad seller on its own, I just think a better choice in actress, don't turn ur back on it... I would purchase a 1 on 1 anal only scene with the right actress or actions/positions i.e. cream or some dope deepthroat etc.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby dpconnoisseur1 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:09 am

Alan2008 wrote:
SimplyStunning wrote:You concentrate on building your own fan base on your unique shoots. Think more Jillian Janson and Aidra Fox type scenes.


100% Agreed...


+1 Agree, I skipped this because of the 0% Pussy content. It is much to early to consider the scene a failure. It has only been a couple of days!

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Postby Magoo8 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:47 am

American Anal wrote:

ella nova booking in sept in LA


VERY NICE!!! DAP and WET SCENE??? :D :D :D

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby Dudemeister » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:13 am

Skipped it because of the foot fetish content. The combination of those leg warmers and bare feet was a no go for me. Would have bought it with heels, though.
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Postby nikolai1989 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:54 am

i have Haley reed booked for airtight does not wanna do IRDP in july....FUCK YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH ahahha thanks a lot...instant buy

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby RedBaron » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:46 am

I do not buy scenes with girls with big bushes! Shave their pussies!
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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby hjohjole » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:59 am

SimplyStunning wrote:So American Anal went from shooting unique scenes to what all other producers are shooting.


This is just not true. The vast majority of scenes released on LP are DP scenes. Gonzo, Interracial Vision and Assblanca all put out pretty much exclusively DP scenes. The only director that keeps a focus on all anal is Giorgio and he is the most consistently top selling director on the site. Now what does that tell you?

American Anal wrote:Alright yea thanks for the feed back i will continue shoot my style i personally dont like 100% anal just thought it would be good but now i know


I am sorry to hear that. By all means go on and shoot whatever content you like. But pleas don't knock 100% anal just because this one scene failed. Im pretty sure it was mostly because of the model.

Top names like Jillian Janson and Aidra Fox are of course safe cards to bet on. But keep in mind that your third best selling scene is still with Lola Fae and 4th is Kylie Martin. You guys do really well with young newbies. So if you want to play to your strengths try to get more girls like them.

I am really excited to hear you guys landed a scene with Gia Derza. :D
Pleas don't over do it with the DP pussy fucking. If i wanted to see pussy sex i would just download one of these new "Glam Porn" scenes.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby blublubeacha » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:46 am

the action and all looks really good. the model is just not very popular. nothing against her at all though. she is good looking and all. i just think american anal needs to book more popular pornstars

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby jeffandersonn » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:17 pm

why did it fail?

i don't wanna sound rude but she is not beautiful enough to sell here. plus the action was pretty lame. it doesn't make any sense to shoot dap if girl can't take it. and it was very stupid to not shoot dp.

also camera work has some problem, and again no tunnel view.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby jeffandersonn » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:24 pm

American Anal wrote: so now i know i have
kierra croft- airtight and IRDP
monica sage -airtight and IRDP
all 4 scenes scheduled end of month
arya faye does not wanna do DP
i have Haley reed booked for airtight does not wanna do IRDP in july
Ashley adams booked for Airtight in july

anya olsen is thinking about it
ella nova booking in sept in LA
natalia star retired
cherrie deville is gonna be booked in sept in LA

sunny chase in july
her 1st IRDP
airtight

gia derza IRDP in july



based on that list it will be a long wait to watch something decent.

still againg b list talent.

the only scenes worth watching are cherie deville and any olsen, invest all the money you can on those two and you will make $$$$$. anya olsen ir dp will break the internet.

shoot true ir dp/dap, dont label a scene "interracial dp " if both guys are not black.

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Postby blublubeacha » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:38 pm

i am also excited about ella nova. i hope ella nova is shooting much more porn soon

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby lesserfirefox » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:59 pm

For me was a very good scene, and I like Sheena Ryder but I dont know if she has a good feedback in general so maybe doesn't sell well for the performer or maybe cause u have to built a studio reputation, I mean everybody knows what to expect from a Giorgio Grandi scene if u keep to shoot good DAP scenes with mainstream performers the reputation of the studio will grow and the sells will be good and stable, but U need to maintain a certain standar for all the scenes (no scnes without mainstream female performers, no dp only, no weak male performers) at list for a while... then when u'll have a good studio reputation with a certain quality standard u could try some experiment.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby jeffandersonn » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:51 pm

American Anal wrote:anya olsen is thinking about it


last thing about anya olsen.

you can't shoot a better dp than the one she did for Jules Jordan. this is the reason to shoot her first IR DP or ir airtight even better.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby xxx » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:12 pm

This scene did not fail. It is just not a top seller.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby drevokocur66 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:23 pm

I support wet content only, so no wet no buy for me. But if that wasn't the case, here is why I would have not purchased the scene...

First DAP EVER... First IR ever.. First anal ever...first this ever, first that ever... who cares? There is a first time for everything, it has been done by someone already, get over it.

Don't care that much for DAP, and looking at the preview, it was nowhere near the kind of DAP that would make me want to buy the scene. (see Arwen Gold)

Some like it, but I HATE over oiled scenes.

The faces she makes, way over the top. Reminds me of Will Ferrell.

Looking at the preview, the scene looked busy and hectic and I can't really comment on the flow of the scene only from a preview.
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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby TDak » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:46 pm

IMO your best content is the content where the model is:

1. Younger
2. Relatively new
3. Not dressed in a stereotypical porn outfit

Sineplex built a massive following with natural newcomers and rougher anal treatment - and there's now a massive gap in this area.
When you start booking well-know stars it just starts looking like a million other scenes.

I still think the Anastasia Rose scene was one of your best, along with Lola Faye.

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Postby SimplyStunning » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:44 pm

hjohjole wrote:But keep in mind that your third best selling scene is still with Lola Fae and 4th is Kylie Martin. You guys do really well with young newbies. So if you want to play to your strengths try to get more girls like them.


For accuracy in whatever point you are trying to make: Lola Fae is 10th and Kylie Martin is 6th best selling scenes for American Anal and neither are on the LegalPorno 100 best selling list. This is a shame because they are both great scenes and juts being factually accurate.

hjohjole wrote:Pleas don't over do it with the DP pussy fucking. If i wanted to see pussy sex i would just download one of these new "Glam Porn" scenes.


It is not even worth reading what you say after that stupid comment because if you think that Glam Porn and American Anal DP are the same then you should go get your eyes checked. So here is an equally stupid statement if you want to find sites catering in 100% Anal scenes then maybe you should subscribe to Gay and Tranny porn sites. Guaranteed No Pussy, 0% Pussy and 100% Anal there. Don't you agree.
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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby American Anal » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:24 pm

xxx wrote:This scene did not fail. It is just not a top seller.



NO it FAILED IM LOOSING MONEY ON IT EVERYTHING IS TOO EXPENSIVE IN USA AND THE SOFTWARE THEY USE WORKS FOR THE EURO MARKET BUT NOT USA ASSABLANCA IS LP THATS WHY THEY CAN AFFORD IT BUT THEY SHOULD PAY OUT MORE FOR USA CONTENT

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby alekseich » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:25 pm

0% pussy is dumb decision, in my opinion. What a stupid trend to ignore pussy. DP is one of the best porn actions. Not a problem shoot DP and DAP in one scene

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby jeremyliu » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:55 pm

Very glad to see Haley Reed finally confirmed, for airtight no less!
I wonder how much advertising beyond LP you can get? Even stuff like posting on adultdvdtalk and other big forums would get more attention, especially with a big name like Haley.
In general I think what would set American Anal scenes apart from other American studios is the dirtiness and intensity. For example, Haley's HardX DP was very intense but there was no chat with her beforehand and the pounding wasn't as hard as LP. There was a lot of focus on her facial expressions and whole body shots in DP with hair pulling and choking which was great. I think that's the scene for LP to beat.
Long hard action in airtight would sell well, changing camera angles more than just changing positions for the sake of it.
It would be great if there was anal right from the start and DP action for as much of the scene as possible.
I agree with the above about shaved bush too.
Keep up the good work! I suppose Sheena Ryder doesn't have much of a following.
Younger nubiles doing gangbang is what America needs, which is why I suppose the slimmer cuties have done better on American Anal. I keep coming back to Sasha Grey's gangbang as a 18 year old in Gang Bang 5 as a benchmark. It would be great if young sluts could be gangbanged as hard as this today. Consistent output of this sort of content is lacking at the moment in the US, we basically maybe get a gangbang title once a month at most from the major studios.
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Postby g1ndude » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:01 pm

American Anal wrote:kierra croft- airtight and IRDP
arya faye does not wanna do DP
i have Haley reed booked for airtight does not wanna do IRDP in july
Ashley adams booked for Airtight in july

Super psyched for these, especially Ashley Adams and Kiera Croft. Glad someone finally got Haley. Personally I'd instabuy an Arya Fae 1on1 anal scene but that might just be me

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby dpconnoisseur1 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:21 pm

^+1, for me on Arya Fae 1on1 anal if it is with Mandingo or Dredd ;)

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Postby Mark822 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:19 pm

American Anal wrote:ok guys im interested in knowing why did my sheena scene tank what factors caused it to rate so low

does any think i should change up the intro and have something scripted ??
whats up with glam shit there putting out now LP is trying tonput out 3-4 scenes a day does any one like this glam shit

Ugly leggings ruined it. I know it's not your or Sheena's fault, she has scars from car accident but it's really a turn off. Other than that, Sheena performed really well, she has big ass and fucks very good. No scripts, no glam shit. I like your style, keep doing it.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby jeffandersonn » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:33 pm

American Anal wrote:
xxx wrote:This scene did not fail. It is just not a top seller.



NO it FAILED IM LOOSING MONEY ON IT EVERYTHING IS TOO EXPENSIVE IN USA AND THE SOFTWARE THEY USE WORKS FOR THE EURO MARKET BUT NOT USA ASSABLANCA IS LP THATS WHY THEY CAN AFFORD IT BUT THEY SHOULD PAY OUT MORE FOR USA CONTENT


don't know how it works the software but i knew from the beginning sheena ryder scene would have been a fiasco.

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Postby MaxJ » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:50 pm

American Anal wrote:Alright yea thanks for the feed back i will continue shoot my style i personally dont like 100% anal just thought it would be good but now i know
and i only shot sheena cuz i was late to put something out and she was avalable and wanted DAP so thought id give it to LP but everythings a learning expierience so now i know i have
kierra croft- airtight and IRDP
monica sage -airtight and IRDP
all 4 scenes scheduled end of month
arya faye does not wanna do DP
i have Haley reed booked for airtight does not wanna do IRDP in july
Ashley adams booked for Airtight in july

anya olsen is thinking about it
ella nova booking in sept in LA
natalia star retired
cherrie deville is gonna be booked in sept in LA

sunny chase in july
her 1st IRDP
airtight

gia derza IRDP in july

Sheena did a great job, the fact she does dap deserves respect. As other guys said, problem was with outfit. Leggings are boner killer, wish you gave her some stockings. I would like to see her again, dap with 3-4 guys would be amazing, you haven't filmed that yet. :)

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Postby JohnnyMcSpunkencock » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:30 am

24 hours since you posted mate. Only you know the cash details, profit over expense, but give it some more air time promoting it. Let us know by Friday. Be a shame if that was the case for you overall. Have you promoted it on ADT too?
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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby bloodywarriorx » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:33 am

I didn’t buy the scene because of the long bush! At least for me every girl must be shave

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby gongobyte » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:44 am

The trailer to me looked really great and the action actually much better than some earlier scenes. Unfortunately I simply do not find this model attractive and hence had no reason to buy the scene. Also sadly most of the listed upcoming models I find unattractive.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby Mark822 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:50 pm

MaxJ wrote:
American Anal wrote:Alright yea thanks for the feed back i will continue shoot my style i personally dont like 100% anal just thought it would be good but now i know
and i only shot sheena cuz i was late to put something out and she was avalable and wanted DAP so thought id give it to LP but everythings a learning expierience so now i know i have
kierra croft- airtight and IRDP
monica sage -airtight and IRDP
all 4 scenes scheduled end of month
arya faye does not wanna do DP
i have Haley reed booked for airtight does not wanna do IRDP in july
Ashley adams booked for Airtight in july

anya olsen is thinking about it
ella nova booking in sept in LA
natalia star retired
cherrie deville is gonna be booked in sept in LA

sunny chase in july
her 1st IRDP
airtight

gia derza IRDP in july

Sheena did a great job, the fact she does dap deserves respect. As other guys said, problem was with outfit. Leggings are boner killer, wish you gave her some stockings. I would like to see her again, dap with 3-4 guys would be amazing, you haven't filmed that yet. :)

Yeah, bring Sheena back. There aren't many girls who do dap, do it right next time and it will sell like a hot cakes. Also, you really need a thread on ADT, that's the best way to introduce your work to the masses.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby Magoo8 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:16 am

American Anal wrote:
xxx wrote:This scene did not fail. It is just not a top seller.



NO it FAILED IM LOOSING MONEY ON IT EVERYTHING IS TOO EXPENSIVE IN USA AND THE SOFTWARE THEY USE WORKS FOR THE EURO MARKET BUT NOT USA ASSABLANCA IS LP THATS WHY THEY CAN AFFORD IT BUT THEY SHOULD PAY OUT MORE FOR USA CONTENT


Try a poll next time, for model, and sex acts, wet stuff and even guys. Big stars in dirty scenes with huge dicks or a very nasty wet scene...will be huge. :cool:

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby Vawkes » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:39 pm

Even though AA is focused mainly on anal, I still want some element of pussy fucking in the scene. For me, DP sex is better than DAP.

Also, I see that you have explained the reason for such vibrant stockings to be worn, which is understandable. However, if a girl requires to wear garments constantly, I'd prefer you not to cast the girl at all.

I want to see more attractive girls and those or already popular performers or on the ladder.

In addition, I do not like one white dick and one black. Prefer it to be two dicks of same race, unless there is 3+ dicks where it wouldn't matter.

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby dangl » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:08 am

I skipped Sheena's scene because:

- foot fetish
- toys over and over
- no tunnel vision

and I'm not a big enough fan of her to make up for it. The trailer does show you got some good facial reactions though.

American Anal wrote:does any think i should change up the intro and have something scripted ??

Scripts no, but when you've got a girl with personality like Lena Paul, who looks as good as she did in that outfit, you need to make the tease a lot longer.

IMO the biggest disappointment was Maya Kendrick's scene because she is gorgeous but there were no shots of both penetration and face in cowgirl DP (like you have in your best scenes).


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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby J.Carl2 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:21 am

dangl wrote:
American Anal wrote:does any think i should change up the intro and have something scripted ??

Scripts no, but when you've got a girl with personality like Lena Paul, who looks as good as she did in that outfit, you need to make the tease a lot longer.

IMO the biggest disappointment was Maya Kendrick's scene because she is gorgeous but there were no shots of both penetration and face in cowgirl DP (like you have in your best scenes).

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Re: Sheena ryder******why did it fail????

Postby g1ndude » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:45 pm

dangl wrote:Scripts no, but when you've got a girl with personality like Lena Paul, who looks as good as she did in that outfit, you need to make the tease a lot longer.

Agreed on both counts. Personally can't stand scripted porn, only ever watch it if the girl is extra awesome. Probably could've watched that Lena Paul tease for an hour

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