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Re: troubles

Postby dap-addict » Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:42 pm

hyapet wrote:Nobody else's fault (actresses and studios) that they can't replace that - especially when the system was made to give that the room it needed to be the flagship.

Let's just be clear on that.

I think you got some things wrong maybe. From Prague POV it was always clear that Gonzo and GIO will stay the double flagship. NRX sold that extraordinary good because they applied another business model with their subscriptions. But nobody actually knows how many items they really sold. But they were indeed very successful and skyrocketed to 1 ot the 5 LPAV main studios, not the LPAV flagship though.

Mabe for you NRX was the flagship, but sure not for everybody. Me for instance I subscribed them from time to time because it was pretty cheap, but I soon got bored because they were unable to vary their content really. Luckily for Gonzo, GIO, AGO and Yummy they also never exploited the dressing-up option for girls really. Dressing girls up to have sex is still deeply engraved in porn history from USA to Italy in the 1980ties. NRX went their own road here because shooting wet with dressed up girls demands more craft ofc.

I do agree that they had the best porn scouts, but again they failed in brining them to EU, except a few girls basically- NTP and Yummy does much better in this dept, but yes, Latina girls are seldom flowers rather than milky white teens, its another bread, yes.

Now I thing with Gonzo also gone in 2024 GIO (and AGO) will benefit most from NRX (and EKS) gone, but all in all porn looses a lot mainly. I dont think any studio can replace them and after pandemia, War and what happened just now I dont see a possibility in Russia to re-build something on the ashes of NRX. Porn production in Russia will probabely stay a small niche for next 10-15 years to come and NRX legacy can rather not get moved somewhere else in ex-USSR either - while EU is already over-populated with porn studios.

It's a big loss, but at least we know that Nick Whitehard did a lot himself to loose his studio. Doenst help us porn users, but it's a kind of small solace nevertheless.
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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:53 am

Dressing up performers is only necessary when the actress has ... less than "flattering" portions of her body (for people outside of that particular niche or fetish) - so, for instance, if a girl has gigantic scar marks on her breasts - the producer will often give her a strap or brace-like top that not only hides the scars, but makes the girl's breasts shooting forwards like horizontal balloons look more natural. If she is otherwise chubby (I love chubby girls) but the scene is being shot for the "general" audience - they will most likely give her a see-through cloth cincher around her belly.

Dressing the girl's up in high-heels only works when the girl is obviously way too innocent for them and doesn't know how to walk in them. Otherwise - it cheapens the whole thing by making the girl look like a five-dollar hooker waiting outside the back of a gas-station.

When the girl has natural tits - and they put a beautifully suggestive dress on her - and then slowly take it off of her as the acts of the porn get more degrading - that is absolutely top notch (think of Nikki Hill BBC DAP scenes). But the clothing doesn't always work - and when the girl has assets that otherwise might not be the most flattering - the clothing can appear to be a bandage that covers it up.

NRX did it right as far as I'm concerned. Dressed them up in the beginning - have them strip - and then have the men descend on them. The actresses though could pull it off, though. Beautifully lithe and naturally busty girls for whom clothing only disgraced their pure natural beauty. Nothing wrong with them being in the nude for 95% of the shoot. Then again, if done well, clothing isn't against the rules. But it doesn't always land - so I'll never blame anyone for just forgoing the risk.

Thank you for the heads-up on where exactly NRX Studio stood within the family. I didn't know. And yeah - you're right. Even if they recreate all of the different elements - the most intrinsic part - the talent - is staying in Russia. The other studios cannot wave a magic wand for that. It took NRX Studio essentially three years to develop the reach they had within the talent pool in Russia itself. They can't just go somewhere else and magically recreate that. You're more than right in that regard. Besides, Western European girls aren't necessarily up to that standard. Although the Spanish have been proving that wrong time and again. But, outside of them? Germany? France? Italy? If any single one of those places has a single A+ performer - it's a miracle. You have to travel East to access lands where the financial situation is less fruitful and stable - and also - where the women, on average, are just way hotter/more beautiful.

GIO and AGO pretty much stick with the standard they set up for themselves since those studios formed. I don't want to say that nothing exciting is coming out of there - because that isn't fair - but ... replacing NRX? I don't see it.

I don't really know what's going on with Nick behind the scenes, but what is the typical rule of thumb is that porn is a pretty crazy business at times. What happened in Russia to these guys lays outside the reality of being able to lay the blame at their doorstep. As someone somewhere else already said - with Russia cracking down on "Western influences" - it was only a matter of time.

To wrap this all up - it's not that the access to the girls not being there is the studios fault even. Now, in the day and age of O-F, any girl that has A+, A++, or S rank beauty, knows that they can start their own business essentially and make a ton of cash by only dressing daintily and just staring at a camera for hours on end. The only reason they would join a studio anymore is because they get a huge spike in exposure - at which point - they can then launch their O-F career from there. So, even if they get into the studio system, the chances of them being there for a long time isn't that great. As Lina Shisuta more than proved.

But definitely - I see where you're coming from. Respect.

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Re: troubles

Postby steverino1969 » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:48 pm

This ongoing situation has me somewhat depressed. NRX and EKS were producing the best porn on Earth, then suddenly they were gone. I can only hope that they'll be back before too long.

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Re: troubles

Postby dap-addict » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:33 am

Some good nows to brighten up this weekend guys: I just learned that other studio in Russia will soon shoot new DAPs! :) :cool:
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Re: troubles

Postby feltrough » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:24 am

dap-addict wrote:Some good nows to brighten up this weekend guys: I just learned that other studio in Russia will soon shoot new DAPs! :) :cool:

Good news let us know when it happens.
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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:03 am

Any actual news from Nick?

I gotta say - the way the whole thing was handled was a bit of a let-down. He seemed more interested in settling a vendetta with Tim Deen than just getting his own studio up and running again. Not saying that the two can't happen at the same time - and not saying that moving everything is easy - but Pornbox/Analvids have studios set up all across Europe. You don't have to start out big - you can have just three models and a new scene once a week or once every two weeks. Borrow some guys from the other studios. Have a discussion with the other studio heads for the moment and allow them to understand it's not poaching talent - just covering a temporary gap.

Pornbox/Analvids, with the importance that NRX had in their family, should have been able to just bring everyone together so that the first shaky year of establishing a new studio would have passed in something like three months, and the continued style and type of content could have continued being produced. The whole brand has suffered due to this - with five to six days out of every week feeling uneventful and low-key. Stuffing your front page with 90% amateur bedroom-shot poorly-lit content just buries all the decent stuff. NRX and all the others could rise up above it all every day and make the rest seem like padding - but now with both Russian studios gone - the padding has become the main course.

This is their entire business we're talking about here. I would've thought someone would have actually cared. There should have been communication - every two to three days - giving just brief glimpses of where in the process everything stands. Radio silence alongside ... well, nobody talking about it, makes it feel like everyone just shrugged and went their own way. I understand that Nick might not want to ruffle feathers in Russia - so he should've gotten out - tried to bring as many people with him as possible - and gotten things rolling as quickly as possible.

Customers that were interested in that content (seeing as it was the best selling of everything) should have been given more reason to hang around. Or at least have hope.

I remember having read new the turn of the year on one of descriptions for one of the scenes - I forget which one now - something along the lines of, "2024 is going to be the best year for Pornbox."

That statement seems to have attracted a lot of hubris. With the ways things are being handled, it certainly hasn't aged well.

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Re: troubles

Postby malvarezlaw » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:20 am

Once again, I agree with hyapet's comments. He seems to know a lot about the industry and I appreciate his "insider baseball" observations.

It's unlikely that what happened to NRX and EK had anything to do with Russian politics. It seems that there were allegations of abuse, extortion and violence and this is why the police got involved. Moscow and Saint Petersburg are as cosmopolitan as any European city. It was no secret that porn was being produced there and marketed internationally, and this has been going on for years. Russia has a lot going on geopolitically, Putin's re-election is virtually uncontested (March 15-17), they're starting the third year of a war, and expanding BRICS, so I doubt porn is very relevant to the powers that be.

I agree that this platform has now deteriorated almost beyond recognition in just the last few months. I've been around this place since the Sineplex days and it's a shame. This platform will not survive as a cheap imitation of other sites, that cannot be named (M**vids), which sell clips .

I hope these guys find a way to recreate NRX and EK because I doubt the South Americans, Giorgio and AG can keep this porn ship afloat.

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Re: troubles

Postby dap-addict » Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:03 am

malvarezlaw wrote:Once again, I agree with hyapet's comments. He seems to know a lot about the industry and I appreciate his "insider baseball" observations.

It's unlikely that what happened to NRX and EK had anything to do with Russian politics. It seems that there were allegations of abuse, extortion and violence and this is why the police got involved.

I think you both dont understand the model of Pornbox and AVLP. It's a mere sales platform now and not an all studio HQ in Prague. Me and many others also pointed to fact that management went more and more silent since that high 35% price rise mid April 2022. It seems streamlined with War but has other reasons. Anyway, fact is there is no body which would be able now to react on NRX and EKS production stop and/or even invite them to Prague for an alternative production starting small bla bla as hyapet suggests.

NRX started small in Russia 3 years ago and so did EKS both grew and one was more successful than the other. Both had some start-up money from Prague as far as I remember, but that was it. There was no Prague boss for them, they were free what to do. Nick Whitehard proofed to tap a certain market very good, but NRX users will now mainly spread to Porn World and GIO. Most of them will not just leave.

Nick vs. Tim war on X is silent since 10 days or so. Nick has come foreward with nothing. He might work on another option within Russia because for sure he and his new former porn girl wifey got into traveling and celebration Dubai rich Russians life. They need a new business model to continue that, so much is sure. Let's hope its a porn biz model!
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Re: troubles

Postby DPraved » Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:27 pm

dap-addict wrote:Some good nows to brighten up this weekend guys: I just learned that other studio in Russia will soon shoot new DAPs! :) :cool:

Is it a new studio or one of the the minor studios stepping up to fill the void?

Vira Gold stepped up his game with that Leyla Toy 3on1 recently and Angelica Heaven, who has a few VG scenes, is definitely overdue for some gangbanging: https://pornbox.com/application/model/206771
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Re: troubles

Postby malvarezlaw » Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:30 pm

Thank you for the clarification dap-addict. Those of us in the West are trying to make sense of what happened. I agree that Nick seems to have made a lot of money with NRX (enough to enjoy rich Russian life in Dubai) and he obviously has good contacts in Russia so I'm also hoping that he'll return to the business.

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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:01 am

Thank you for the compliments, Malvar, but honestly yourself and dap_addict have much more cognizant, insightful, and on the nose comments than myself. I must admit, I'm more of an outsider to all of this. I just enjoy the content - and came here to find out why it disappeared.

It's a crushing shame that NRX closed down. They just got it in terms of porn production. The lighting - the size of the studio - the progression of the scene - the male actors - the female talent - it was all top notch.

If anyone comes even kind of close to this - it's Natasha Teen studios. They can touch the same magic every here and there now and again. They've got a few things that, to no fault of their own, they can't touch NRX on. 18 year old looking blonde haired blue eyed angels taking crushing bbc dap scenes ... no one is topping that. But! Scenes like the last one with the Hayek sisters shows absolutely top grade content. So, no ... I don't think the whole operation is bust - even if I kinda made it sound like that.

But ... the other Eastern European scenes ...like, for fuck's sakes ... an absolutely beautiful teen ends up being shot on a 1980's camcorder and ends up having a dark orange deep red tint to her skin for the whole scene. Watching a really cute girl fuck in what amounts to the cheapest tiniest hotel room, where some thin dick nobody sits on his back for half the scene. It's like, if you're going to care this little, don't even bother.

NRX proved that when all burners turn on full blast, the best port ever produced can be made. I would imagine that a shrinking of the talent pool (concentrate the money on the higher end talent) and a focus on truly degrading totally depraved boundary pushing porn with only the highest production available would be where to put the attention.

GIO is great. He honestly is. As is AGO at times as well. But, there is a waist deep talent pool of incredibly taut perfect looking 18 year olds that are struggling getting their OF account off the ground in the absolutely gigantic sea of competition - start harvesting that. I'm not saying don't shoot scenes with a 55 year old wrinkled mess of a 75 year old looking Grandma. But make sure you got the bread and butter covered before targeting these niches. Have the highest end available - and then let whatever comes out under that happen.

The whole thing feels like these folks forgot how to shoot porn. Well ... that's unfair. That's really unfair. But the NRX withdrawals are real. Like, honestly, thank the heavens for Natasha Teen and the other South American studios. But, especially Natasha Teen. Absolutely gorgeous models performing completely degrading scenes that are actually properly lit and are shot in a place larger than a shoebox.

The time to salvage and recreate the NRX empire was immediately. Girls like Eva Barbie and Sasha Paige are once in a generation. Pay them even if they're not producing. Keep them close. Every week that passes with nothing happening looks to have all the talents and resources spread further and further apart until ... there just is no revival.

It may have already reached that point. For most other port studios - that happens. For NRX Studio?

That's a crippling shame..

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Re: troubles

Postby dap-addict » Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:18 am

hyapet wrote:I must admit, I'm more of an outsider to all of this. I just enjoy the content - and came here to find out why it disappeared.

It's a crushing shame that NRX closed down. They just got it in terms of porn production. The lighting - the size of the studio - the progression of the scene - the male actors - the female talent - it was all top notch.

But they also made some mistakes ofc.
One problem is that product released is one thing, but production is another and it asks for not only good payment, which they surely had, but also a lot of emotional intelligence as to not create enemies within and handle all sorts of crisis situations.

Anyway, in the actual fight its them vs. Tim Dean and they bragged a lot about proofs but didnt show anything. However, thats just one level another for sure is to get the biz going and for sure Nick and/or the person he employeed on spot is a very good pornographer. And they had very good scouts. I just hope they stay in porn and look for solutions rather than being caught by other typical Dubai biz options! Time will tell.

There's another ray of home I found hidden somewhere on their different social media channels, probabely posted in Russian: Nicks current wifey claims porn was actually legal to produce in Russia at least for a certain MP. We thus have a power structure access as well as the heralded new DAPs shot soon, probabely by a smaller company. But linked together something new could actually start within Russia! :)
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Re: troubles

Postby rakdobi » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:55 am

If you ask me, I think it's because of the BBC. It's the most racist country in the world. They don't have a problem with white people breaking up their girls, but if it's black? It could drive them crazy

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Re: troubles

Postby lovenipples » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:35 pm

Sasha Paige stated that she will rreturn to porn in Apeil - is that maybe related with the information from dap-addict?

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Re: troubles

Postby zder1 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:07 pm

Too bad this studios are gone, it was the studios with most pretty girls

I agree it could be because of the bbc, the studios had barely any bbc scenes untill 2023

Bur who knows...

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Re: troubles

Postby feltrough » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:26 pm

zder1 wrote:Too bad this studios are gone, it was the studios with most pretty girls

I agree it could be because of the bbc, the studios had barely any bbc scenes untill 2023

Bur who knows...

Definetly Putin didnt like to see that kind of porn and shot them down.
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Re: troubles

Postby malvarezlaw » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:01 am

Possibly good news. Romeo First posted a video a couple of hours ago. He explains that he founded and ran EK and Faplex. He didn't want to get into the drama, but he did say that they're working hard to relocate and to continue producing new content "soon".

I think that the problems were primarily internal ones where, as a result of alleged criminal conduct, the authorities got involved. He wants reassurances that the fan base will continue to support him.
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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:45 pm

Even if the Russian system started to get re-implemented - it might take a while before it was anything like it was at the end of 2023.

For one thing - Russian authorities, like all authorities, don't want to appear either corrupt or incompetent. They no doubt are both - as all authorities are - and that's not a knock to anybody, but very, very, very few people out there are actually perfect. But nevertheless - once the message got out that the shooting of porn was going to stop - it wouldn't look good on them if it literally started up again within a couple of months.

Nick probably no doubt knows this. He also knows that both him and Tim Deen kind of look like fools at the moment. Things can go haywire backstage, but once dirty laundry gets made public, then nobody looks good. Both Tim and Nick saying they're going to be making documentaries about it is in absolutely no ones interest. Least of all the people that consume the porn. We all wish the best for the performers and producers alike - but hearing that everything is a real gong show behind the scenes can at best make the consumption of it uncomfortable or at the worst unpalatable. I don't want to consume porn made by monsters - no one does.

So, how anybody could think dragging this out, in the public square nonetheless, is a good idea is beyond me. Especially when the net result is that the Russian authorities are then incentivized to clamp down on it further. It's one thing if they look the other way when porn is being shot in their country - it's another altogether if it looks like they're giving the green light to a for-profit sexual-abuse ring.

I can't speak to any of this - but I never got the feeling that anything ugly was going on behind the scenes. Like, the performers all seemed mostly "happy" in the scenes (i.e: trying to hide their smiles), and increasingly beautiful models kept lining up to get into the studio. Usually if there's a real nasty abuse angle going on - girls will let other girls know - and the word would spread that that isn't the place to go if you value your safety.

Regardless - it's good to hear from somebody closer to it. There's nothing really concrete there - but at least some sound is better than no sound at all. Hopefully Nick is just laying low in the online world while trying to get everything going in the real world.

If this were any other studio - it would kinda be like, yeah, shit happens. Even with Gonzo going, and their subsequent revival, I didn't feel much. Like, I love Gonzo. Absolutely insane catelog of the highest quality performers and work. But even with Baby Kxtten's first TAP released just a couple of days ago, it didn't come close to the atmosphere, the ambiance, the angles, the music, the entire production of Eva Barbie's second BBC DAP scene. Like, sometimes the bar gets set so high that everything that came before it really feels like it came from another, older generation.

This isn't meant to disrespect the other studios - but NRX established such a high plateau - that if I were Nick, I would've been scrambling 24/7 to somehow save and continue the absolute legacy of what he had started there. Forget the money even - just being able to set the standard for the entire medium - that's where he was at.

This isn't saying he's not doing this - or that he's somehow letting us down - no. I don't know what's going on out there - to assume he's not doing everything in his power to get everything back to the way it was is unfair and lacks any proof. Nevertheless, I said it before, the longer something stays apart, the harder it is to get it all back together. And the last thing anybody would want, as far as I can tell, is for them to start shooting uninteresting scenes in cramped rooms with poor lighting with girls who don't have their beauty properly accentuated. lol

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Re: troubles

Postby malvarezlaw » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:18 pm

Hello, hyapet, not to kiss your ass, but I always appreciate your comments. As a fellow connoisseur it’s helpful to see what similarly perverse people think.

As someone who is very experienced with the legal profession in the West, and also someone who has been following Russian politics/society and geostrategy for a several years (especially since February 2022), I doubt that the Russian authorities are waging a war on porn.

Russia, much like China, is focused on BRICS and doing business with the new trade system that they’re creating. Internally there are social controls, but there are just as many social controls in the West. This became evident to many during the pandemic and we’re all aware of the censorship that occurs in the “rules based liberal order.”

That said, I’m sure porn is a chaotic business and there are varying degrees of shadiness that occur as is typical of sex work, which has always been socially marginalized. I believe that Nick didn’t like having competition, especially if his competitor (as we’re now learning) is a non-white foreigner who’s living in Russia, and we don’t know what his immigration status is. It’s my understanding that it's not easy for foreigners to establish more “legitimate” businesses in Russia, much less two porn studios. Maybe that's why Romeo was using Erika as a front. Nick probably took advantage of this, he might have strong armed some of the players and eventually someone reported allegations of abuse, extortion, or worse.

Once the police got involved, everyone became fearful as cops and sex work are a bad combination in any country. Despite its Eastern Orthodox culture (which only arose again after 1991 as it was suppressed in the Soviet Union), cosmopolitan Russia has been a very sexualized place. Perhaps they’re not as open about it as in the West, but it’s common knowledge, for example, that the “escort” industry is an accepted (albeit covert) part of city life.

I totally agree that it’s a terrible idea for these guys to be airing their grievances online. It serves no purpose, although I doubt the police care. There are much bigger problems for law enforcement and the FSB to deal with, like the threat of terrorism as a result of the war.

Nick and Romeo and the other producers created a special niche which is very lucrative. Romeo said that before porn he had “nothing”. Hopefully, they’ll get their act together and figure out a way to recreate the studio, perhaps in a different location. There’s clearly money to be made, so I’m sure someone will try to make it.

Now that the election is over and the war might end in the next 18 months, tensions will cool down and everyone can get back to having a lot of crazy sex and making money.

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Re: troubles

Postby DPraved » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:19 am

I haven't heard or seen anything about Romeo First being the owner of EKS and Faplex other than what's been posted on this thread, however the whole thing smells bad to me. How could some guy who by his own admission had nothing be the man behind the curtains of a studio like this for several years? I think it's far more likely that he's an opportunist taking advantage of the absence of Erika to try to scam people. I would love to be proven wrong, but until that time I will remain extremely sceptical to what's essentially a porn actor suddenly unable to find work, asking for donations.
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Re: troubles

Postby rakdobi » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:02 am

I'm pretty sure the guy behind FABLEX is henry Fab

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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:15 pm

The compliments you pay me are too kind, Malvarezlaw. As it is you, not I, who brings the true insight and knowledge into this topic.

Geopolitical tensions are typically the concern of those who rely on politics for their money. While business and politics certainly intersect - it is known to be extremely unwise for either to mess around too much with the other. Outside of party donations - which everyone respects and looks the other way - unless politics is paving roads for business, the involvement of political actors within businesses is usually incredibly suspect, as a bare minimum. And when businesses start to openly play politics, as has been seen in America with corporations taking sides in the culture wars, they just stand to lose money hand over fist.

Of course - this is Russia. They don't really have information technology sectors, manufacturing sectors, or ... very much of anything of note. They certainly have all of these industries, but no one is pulling a Russian made phone out of their pocket anywhere but in Russia itself, and even then that's the exception and not the rule. With resource extraction being a considerable contributor to the economy and with multiple regimes in the 20th century that either outright killed all of their smartest people, or just made them flee, the understanding goes pretty much that there is no such thing as shady business in Russia. Just business. It's a country that makes due by any means necessary.

This is not to label Russia as some kind of crime den or some backwards horrible place to live. If there is any dystopian nightmare of a country to live in these days, that would certainly belong to the Western nations who are all flirting with thought-crime laws and official accepted opinion that can not be deviated from by the public. If anything - Russia would be a paradise for anyone who's still white and hasn't bought into the new world order education to be outright shamed of it.

It's for these reasons that I can actually buy into the political and business classes not wanting to flirt with "Western ideals" like interracial porn or out-in-the-open sex work. They know of the decadence that has immobilized much of the West's motivation and edge. It was their agents who planted the seeds after the fall of the Soviet Union, and there was no longer a wall to separate the two worlds. The War never ended - it just shifted stratagems and gears.

Porn still is the great pacifier though. Rebellious young men who would be otherwise furious at the state of things are now firmly placed in front of screens with only one hand on the keyboard. This helps quell anger worldwide, so as much as any government may state that they are anti-porn, they're all just too happy that this gigantic stress-release valve actually exists. Still though, if something Russian becomes too popular in the West, it would be completely within the Russian government's purview to cut it at the source. The entire Western world essentially told Russia to go stick it - if there's something the West likes that Russia has - then however small the satisfaction that would be gleaned from cutting it off, it would still be satisfaction.

DPraved brings up a really interesting observation with regards to Romeo. But, the logic he uses within there somewhat contradicts itself. I'm not saying that DPraved is wrong, not that he was even stating as much, but there's something there that just doesn't add up quite fully.

On the one hand - Romeo had (supposedly) "nothing" before his career in porn. Certainly he would see the folly in biting the hands that feed him. Unless the future reality is that no porn will ever be shot in Russia ever again - most are viewing this as a hiccup in the greater scheme of things. Or, so I would imagine. If he were only an actor - garnering support from the actual fanbase without actually being involved in production would have all the ingredients of a lot of upset customers, or a dent in the image of the brand. If a contractor made it seem like he was the CEO in order to get donations from everyone - and then everyone found out that he just took the money and ran - then, what? He sacrificed his entire career in porn for a one-time payout from the few people who may have been listening? It just doesn't add up.

That's not to say that I think everything is on the level - or even that it isn't - but if I'm guessing what may have happened here - the management and porn producers themselves didn't want to release the tweet/X message and possibly poke sticks in the eyes of the authorities they are trying to lay low from. When an actor, as in, someone not involved with the actual production of it, presents the information - it may be a "less official" way of getting the word out or gauging interest. I don't recall seeing him say that he's actually running the show. But then again, the only message I've read is the one posted below, so I really don't know.

Still though - this isn't like a pack of gum in the school yard. All of these studios no doubt have actual business arms - with registrations as such - and people who are officially, legally in charge. It may very well be called Erica Korti studio - but unless it wasn't run by Erica Korti - or she didn't have some direct involvement in it - then what would be the point? So they could pay her money just for her name? I always thought that Natasha Teen actually ran Natasha Teen studios. I thought that was one of the biggest lures that Pornbox had to the prospective talents they hired - where, if they really made it, and became a big name on the platform, they could end up with their own studio and produce the porn, and not just forever star in it.

I dunno - I'm in over my head with this one. But, somehow I just don't see the guy burning every bridge for a few dollars like this. That isn't to say it's impossible - but, what will he do after he pretends to be someone he isn't in the industry? Go and work construction afterwards? Who could ever trust him again? As I said, I dunno, but still, just my two cents.

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Re: troubles

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DPraved wrote:I haven't heard or seen anything about Romeo First being the owner of EKS and Faplex other than what's been posted on this thread, however the whole thing smells bad to me. How could some guy who by his own admission had nothing be the man behind the curtains of a studio like this for several years? I think it's far more likely that he's an opportunist taking advantage of the absence of Erika to try to scam people.

Indeed a surprising turn of events!
This said looks like he might also be the owner of First Models which worked in Russia and Prague. Links further point to PW and Joachim Kessef, strange connections. Also did he move from Germany to Russia 4y ago? Erika Korti as far as I know opened her studio with other ppl first, though indeed Romeo First is promoting it from the start.
Anyway, its new to me while I long time was in contact with ppl close to of EKS.
On the other hand why would Romeo First need to scam people based on EKS sad closure? He would be very naive if he hoped to raise potential money with a post like this. :confused:


Generally, hyapet - malzew and other NRX fans - we have to watch out not to project our fave studio needs into a so called analysis of the current Russian porn situation. I say this because I see a lot of despair on one hand and wishful thinking on the other in your posts. Sure Nick Whitehard created something BIG with NRX, sure he had a porn film vision, but he is also a businessman.
To start small again from scrap to help his studio fans isnt his thing, not after he reached the level he reached! I dont see this happen, the more as he has shown a kind of megalomania and control freak attitude last 1-2 years which is hard to lay off again. NRX commercial success has also shown a lot of his character, some of which was already showing in that sad last divorce story, but that was another level, there you could say ok its personal, its between two ppl, here it involved many more ppl dependent on him.

I dont wanna go personal, it's all more complicated always as it seems from the outside. Let's rather just look on the general picture in Russia. Important for sure is presidential campaign is over and ruler of Russia is still the same.
Then we also have to realize that Russia might be a very centralized country but different towns are still different and have partly different power structures. Re-location therefore can be within Russia, most probabely within the 10 million inhabitants towns and add Kaliningrad region as an own way isolated talent pool still big enough to feed porn market needs.
Relocation needs time, though. And scouts need time to re-orientate towards new geographical areas. But it's possible, there is hope! :)
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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:25 am

On point dap-addict.

You're 100% right. Not wise to put hopes and prayers on reality - or to interpret reality through the lens of our desires of what we would like to see happen.

There is still hope. As the models who Nick garnered into his own system are now shooting with the rest of Pornbox (Lina Shisuta and Crystal White yesterday) - meaning that they seem to be getting into the more European side of things. Pornbox probably no doubt knows how valuable Nick was - someone who not only had the vision - but the capacity and capability to pull together all the resources needed, from models to music producers to set designers, to make it happen.

No doubt Pornbox is aware of what a gigantic money-maker NRX was - and probably sent a message out to all of their other studios to make spaces and spots available for all the actresses that NRX had, you know, the ones who starred in the scenes that were selling the most on the site. They're also probably allowing Nick some time to decompress from the entire thing. When your entire operation blows up - it removes a lot of steam from the engine. Also, hopefully, from the sounds of it, some time for him to reflect on where improvements could be made going into the future.

That is again - all wishful thinking. But, as you said, just because you're not in unrealistic fantasy land, doesn't mean you can't hold out some hope either. Lina Shisuta just did a DP scene - after having moved away from porn and complaining about DP scenes on "X" just a few months ago. So - there seems to be some wiggle room - and most likely everyone involved knew they were part of something special.

Politics in Russia is just everyone waiting for Putin to re-elect himself again. Not throwing dirt - but, just realistically, that's pretty much it. The campaigns and everything else that go on during the "election" are probably valuable tools to assess what the public needs and where attention could be paid in the future for societal ills and problems, but realistically, that has nothing to do with Putin getting re-elected again. In fact, if you asked most Russian men, they probably want the highest quality best-ever porn to continue being produced.

I have no idea of what exactly Nick is facing in Russia - but regardless - if and when he goes back there, it will be with the complete understanding of what happened last time - and everything that needs to be done to prevent it from happening again. Whether it's pay-offs, special permits, a bribe network, whatever. Because, no matter where he might relocate to, government power is government power. The same people show up again and then shut him down once more, with the added weight of, "I thought we told you to stop doing this," meaning the resulting punishments and pay-offs would likely be even heftier and more severe.

Nick knows it's probably best to lay low. He himself said something along the lines of being "burnt out" in a tweet while this whole thing was going down. That he was going to retire. He probably won't - but he seems smart enough all things considered not to step on the same landmine twice. Besides laying low, he probably has to reassess whether he can even grease the palms needed, find new talent in whichever region he would want to go to, get together a whole another team, and then whether the payoffs required to keep it afloat would even make doing it worthwhile in the first place. NRX had an insanely 11/10 beauty talent pool that developed right near the shut-down (Lina, Sasha, Eva). But that took three years to develop. He won't be able to go into a new region, pay bribes, and then start out with talent that doesn't have the same appeal.

And then for what ... so someone else can crawl through the governmental system and provide him another shut down notice?

You're right - best to temper expectations and keep hope alive. But the more time that passes - the percentage of him actually getting back into it decreases as well. Because, you have to figure, all the while he's out of the game, Tim Deen is in the game. And if anybody that like exists on your home turf, with past bad blood, and a business reason to send the same people that he's been giving pay-outs to to ruin Nick's start up drive, then that probably further complicates things.

Hope is great. And if it doesn't come through - at least we got to witness when the highlight of all porn ever made was being produced.

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Re: troubles

Postby malvarezlaw » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:40 am

Thanks again to dap-addict and hyapet for adding a lot of intelligent content to this discussion.

I agree that I’m partially projecting because in the last few years this platform was generating amazing porn, with the Russians, especially NRX and EK, creating an exciting new template beyond the white sets of the Czech players and the predictable formulas. And the young Russian talent was fresh and very motivated. It’s been disappointing to now scroll through the daily offerings of AV hoping to find something worth purchasing. It’s like a basement sale at an old department store. Before the debacle, I used to sometimes purchase as many as five scenes.

Obviously, dap-addict has a much better understanding of Russia and its complexities, especially for businesses that exist on the margins of “decent” society.

At the end of this term, Putin’s reign will have been longer than Catherine the Great’s (34 years for her 36 for him). So, I don’t think any of the porn problems had to do with the elections which were just a formality. Nick and his wife created a political smokescreen to hide behind. The terrorist attacks in Moscow and the internal security threats faced by the authorities make me believe that porn production is entirely irrelevant to them.

I also get that Russia is locked in a proxy war with the collective West. But Russia basically wants to do business and prosper and still has significant economic ties with the West. In other words, there’s no Maoist cultural revolution happening in Russia. Plus Russia went through 70 years of communist secularization, so although parts of the population are now conservative Orthodox Christians, the majority are not much different than decadent Europeans, especially the young people. Shooting porn happens behind closed doors and is sold internationally on the internet. It’s not a business that's on public display on the streets of Saint Petersburg. I’m still seeing cam models from Russia and some of the models who were filming before have maintained their social media accounts and still post.

The problems that befell NRX and the other studios seem to have originated with Nick and whatever arrangements he may have had with local police and/or criminal elements.

My hope lies in the lure of profits. NRX and EK created a prototype that works and makes money. Someone somewhere must also realize that with Interracial Vision gone, there’s an open market for hard interracial porn with European and Slavic girls.

Lastly, while we await the emergence of the next great studio, I’m at least enjoying the mental masturbation of trying to figure out what happened and speculating on the future of perverse porn as we sleepwalk towards WW3.

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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:41 am

Apt insight as always, Malvarezlaw.

It's best to remember, though, that the law isn't always focused on one thing. There are different departments for different crimes. Just because terrorism is (and has always been) a priority, doesn't mean that you can just steal cars at will. Most likely - there are different protocols for different types of people - and those that deal with "moral crime" are usually the best targets for extortion. Where the law will always have the right to shut you down - but, nobody is crying foul when the "criminal" gets "let off the hook" if they don't persecute.

What probably helped NRX and Erika Korti studios the first time around was that they were new. They probably were around for a year or two before anybody anywhere really caught wind of what was going down and where it was happening. At this point though, Nick is well known. Anywhere he goes, there will be whispers, even before he's gotten a physical location, built sets, gotten all the secondary talent that actually puts the production together, never mind sending out scouts which will no doubt catch people's attention more than anything.

This and enemies in the business makes for a really toxic brew. Birds of a feather ... word will be out before the first video is released. And ... what then? The police are one thing. They are rational and can be bargained with. They aren't going to start laying hurt on a possible wallet. But ... criminal elements? That's in part what the bargain with the police is for, I would imagine. So that they, in essence, become your protection. Just like the mob. If after making a deal with the police for a bribe, the person lined up after them is a local mobster in the town you're shooting in, then where does it end? Or, more realistically, when does the profit no longer justify the risk?

There are bigger problems at stage at the moment when it comes to both porn production and distribution. There are currently two worms that are eating their own tails at the moment. On the one hand, you have the traditional porn studios. They're closing down everywhere, world wide. The business element is still viable, but the talent isn't really there anymore. Why? Because of O-F. Why would the best girls take the equivalent of a baseball bat up their rear if they can make tens of thousands of dollars just by being annoying and fully clothed in front of a cheap camera all day long? Sure - there will always be people lining up to shoot at the traditional studios - but if you take a gander at the videos going up on A-V these days, some days there's something like 90% of the output consisting of people having no right being in porn. Back of the alley in the poorest parts of town hookers have more appeal than these women. Not girls. Women. Old, saggy, fat, and just ... yeah. Usually poor lighting is porn's greatest curse - in many of these scenes, it's like, "Whoa! Turn that light down! Waaaaaaaay down."

It gets even worse. Because now, despite O-F or likewise platforms being a draw for the 11s, 10s, 9s, and 8s, there's the onslaught of AI porn. And man ... some of this stuff is really good. Like, really good. There's a ton of crap, but out of every nine mehs, there's one that's seriously a masterpiece. Even worse - Google itself can't tell the difference yet between real people and AI. So, when you type in, "Gorgeous busty blonde teen" and hit enter, roughly 40% of the results are AI produced now. It was just like 10% a couple months ago. Traditional I-G/O-F/porn models are now fighting algorithms that start out at the girl being perfect, never mind having a mesh of facial features from what can be considered the top ten hottest people of all time perfectly melded into a pants-springing work of hyper-degrading art. And we're not talking cartoons here either, or uncanny valley creations. But photograph level reality. Where you have to blink twice, and even then you're not sure if the person isn't actually real.

And this is the first generation of AI porn. The next generation, which has already been created (and they're working on the third) has been held back because, pretty much, it'll crash all content creation on the Internet. From YouTube to Facebook to I-G to O-F to literally everything - imagine if you have AI making the most beautiful people and talking to you as if they were real - imagine them making a full length feature film in roughly a minute based on the prompts that you inserted - imagine video game porn that likewise can be made in a couple minutes based off of your input. The future is here and ... it doesn't look like people are really going to be necessary for it.

So, all things considered, who really knows where this is going to go. In the matter of like three years, studio porn went from being the undisputed king, to being the radio that got eaten by television that likewise got eaten by the Internet. There's a good reason all of these studios are shutting down. And when you see the kind of people they can attract to perform - it doesn't really give the highest amount of hope.

That's why NRX was so crucial. It shot such high-level porn, with such beautiful actresses, that it pretty much kept the entire industry relevant. North America is scared to go into degrading porn, where their actresses at their raunchiest typically do a DP, and Europe has too much opportunity for women to really want to go into porn, even with the family structure deteriorating like with the rest of the West, there's still too much shame associated with it. Even outside of that - European women really aren't all that hot. But the Russians - they absolutely had it. And the level of output NRX had - and the fact that it was pretty much the home-base of all degrading porn anywhere anymore - meant that actresses that wanted to become O-F famous afterwards, could absolutely do so using NRX as their ladder.

It produced such amazing quality - that it could easily top any cam show and attracts millions of porn enthusiasts - and in turn make itself relevant as the last bastion of studio made porn. But now - with everything else that's going on within Russia - and what's happening with AI on top of that - there are so many uncontrollable factors at play that ... I could honestly see Nick just deciding to stay out of it.

It's like, there's a luxury car! But the keys are in the swamp. And the swamp is filled with alligators. And the alligators are on fire and can shoot lasers from their eyes. At some point - with all the unknowns and the culminative risk - you can't be blamed for losing interest in the car.

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Re: troubles

Postby dap-addict » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:24 am

malvarezlaw wrote:My hope lies in the lure of profits. NRX and EK created a prototype that works and makes money. Someone somewhere must also realize that with Interracial Vision gone, there’s an open market for hard interracial porn with European and Slavic girls.

Lastly, while we await the emergence of the next great studio, I’m at least enjoying the mental masturbation of trying to figure out what happened and speculating on the future of perverse porn as we sleepwalk towards WW3.

That mental masturbation is a good one, lol! :cool:
I think I know more or less what happened, but it doenst matter anymore now. Also it's a too delicate matter to share here in full. But anyway, we can sure discuss what lies in the open for everyone to see. For instance there was this tendency from the new Russian studios start to work against each other instead of realizing that all are in the same boat and while sure there must be competition there also must be cooperation and mutual solidarity against the big powers running that country.
And Nick Whitehard sure didnt realize that! :mad: It was him who started with all this exclusivity things and made life for girls just wanting to work as much as possible really difficult. :(
There is good things to be said about NRX handling the porn production process ofc as well. For instance Nick really payed good fees and usually also provided lots of scene bookings for the girls at once. But instead of dwelling just on trust knowing that he offers the best deals NRX started all that intimidation exlusivity pressure and thus provoked what we saw erupting in Tim Deans video.

From a fan perspective this all looked fine ofc because what users got were many scenes of the same extremely nice girls and users could be almost 100% sure NRX girls will eventually run up to DAP. That was very nice ofc, but there was a dark side to that.


Now about BBC Europorn market. I am really not fond of Kessef you mention here, but one has to be said: He's one of the pioneers of BBC in Russia. And sadly before pulling out he payed a big price in rascism there. He went through a lot and created a lot. Romeo First would be nowhere at all without Joachim Kessefs visionary BBC work earlier in Russia!

Now ofc the more Slavic and especially Russian girls work with BBC, ideally also locally, and ideally also up to large wet BBC gangbang DAP, the better! :D :cool:
I'm not much of a BBC fan myself or at least quality of performance is more important to me than color of studs skin, but BBC porn is a huge market and there indeed is hope in the lure of profit!
IF Romeo First is really what he claims to be he'll find a way around Russian system to get EKS and EKS BBC section running again. And ideally he would get together with Nick Whitehard and figure out a division of production fields to help future investment safety. A bit like AGO and GIO do it in Prague, of course there is competition but there are also common interests and there is solidarity.


Btw, Lina Shishuta and other Russian girl single cases: These girls just need to earn some money and likely if they did it with porn they will try to stick to porn. ;)
Lina Shishuta imho just realized that DP is better payed still, maybe she'll also figure out that DAP would be payed much better yet. And even better payed is a DAP performed in Prague! It's really basically as easy as that - and there also lies lots of hope! :cool:
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Re: troubles

Postby rakdobi » Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:03 pm

I don't see it wrong for a studio to do an exclusivity contract with the girls so they don't work elsewhere for at least a certain period of six months or a year. I think TCC worked in the same way with a limited amount of scenes as well. Either way, Nick deleted most of his tweets, looking rather suspicious

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Re: troubles

Postby dap-addict » Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:59 pm

rakdobi wrote:Either way, Nick deleted most of his tweets, looking rather suspicious

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Re: troubles

Postby pfetish206 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:44 pm

dap-addict wrote:
malvarezlaw wrote:My hope lies in the lure of profits. NRX and EK created a prototype that works and makes money. Someone somewhere must also realize that with Interracial Vision gone, there’s an open market for hard interracial porn with European and Slavic girls.

Lastly, while we await the emergence of the next great studio, I’m at least enjoying the mental masturbation of trying to figure out what happened and speculating on the future of perverse porn as we sleepwalk towards WW3.

That mental masturbation is a good one, lol! :cool:
I
think I know more or less what happened, but it doenst matter anymore now. Also it's a too delicate matter to share here in full.


Can you give quick summary ? it seems Nick was jealous and having become very wealthy from nrx let his ego dictate his actions.This jealous insecurity lead to him nuking the russian dap porn market by getting eks studio raided just to suffice his ever growing ego and kill the competition. Its the classic kill two birds with one stone tactic but he either didnt take into account or he didnt care about putting a spotlight on the russian porn scene to the cops which leads to cops investigating the current porn studios. Cops and the sex industry are two things that dont mix especially in Russia. Mr Whitehard fucked his golden goose to make a point but for a total loss of his studio, and being under the radar to all the bs from cops and etc. By his new actions of deleting tweets shows he is a total idiot for starting this meaningless war just for a total loss of gain.

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Re: troubles

Postby pfetish206 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:48 pm

hyapet wrote:Apt insight as always, Malvarezlaw.

It's best to remember, though, that the law isn't always focused on one thing. There are different departments for different crimes. Just because terrorism is (and has always been) a priority, doesn't mean that you can just steal cars at will. Most likely - there are different protocols for different types of people - and those that deal with "moral crime" are usually the best targets for extortion. Where the law will always have the right to shut you down - but, nobody is crying foul when the "criminal" gets "let off the hook" if they don't persecute.

What probably helped NRX and Erika Korti studios the first time around was that they were new. They probably were around for a year or two before anybody anywhere really caught wind of what was going down and where it was happening. At this point though, Nick is well known. Anywhere he goes, there will be whispers, even before he's gotten a physical location, built sets, gotten all the secondary talent that actually puts the production together, never mind sending out scouts which will no doubt catch people's attention more than anything.

This and enemies in the business makes for a really toxic brew. Birds of a feather ... word will be out before the first video is released. And ... what then? The police are one thing. They are rational and can be bargained with. They aren't going to start laying hurt on a possible wallet. But ... criminal elements? That's in part what the bargain with the police is for, I would imagine. So that they, in essence, become your protection. Just like the mob. If after making a deal with the police for a bribe, the person lined up after them is a local mobster in the town you're shooting in, then where does it end? Or, more realistically, when does the profit no longer justify the risk?

There are bigger problems at stage at the moment when it comes to both porn production and distribution. There are currently two worms that are eating their own tails at the moment. On the one hand, you have the traditional porn studios. They're closing down everywhere, world wide. The business element is still viable, but the talent isn't really there anymore. Why? Because of O-F. Why would the best girls take the equivalent of a baseball bat up their rear if they can make tens of thousands of dollars just by being annoying and fully clothed in front of a cheap camera all day long? Sure - there will always be people lining up to shoot at the traditional studios - but if you take a gander at the videos going up on A-V these days, some days there's something like 90% of the output consisting of people having no right being in porn. Back of the alley in the poorest parts of town hookers have more appeal than these women. Not girls. Women. Old, saggy, fat, and just ... yeah. Usually poor lighting is porn's greatest curse - in many of these scenes, it's like, "Whoa! Turn that light down! Waaaaaaaay down."

It gets even worse. Because now, despite O-F or likewise platforms being a draw for the 11s, 10s, 9s, and 8s, there's the onslaught of AI porn. And man ... some of this stuff is really good. Like, really good. There's a ton of crap, but out of every nine mehs, there's one that's seriously a masterpiece. Even worse - Google itself can't tell the difference yet between real people and AI. So, when you type in, "Gorgeous busty blonde teen" and hit enter, roughly 40% of the results are AI produced now. It was just like 10% a couple months ago. Traditional I-G/O-F/porn models are now fighting algorithms that start out at the girl being perfect, never mind having a mesh of facial features from what can be considered the top ten hottest people of all time perfectly melded into a pants-springing work of hyper-degrading art. And we're not talking cartoons here either, or uncanny valley creations. But photograph level reality. Where you have to blink twice, and even then you're not sure if the person isn't actually real.

And this is the first generation of AI porn. The next generation, which has already been created (and they're working on the third) has been held back because, pretty much, it'll crash all content creation on the Internet. From YouTube to Facebook to I-G to O-F to literally everything - imagine if you have AI making the most beautiful people and talking to you as if they were real - imagine them making a full length feature film in roughly a minute based on the prompts that you inserted - imagine video game porn that likewise can be made in a couple minutes based off of your input. The future is here and ... it doesn't look like people are really going to be necessary for it.

So, all things considered, who really knows where this is going to go. In the matter of like three years, studio porn went from being the undisputed king, to being the radio that got eaten by television that likewise got eaten by the Internet. There's a good reason all of these studios are shutting down. And when you see the kind of people they can attract to perform - it doesn't really give the highest amount of hope.

That's why NRX was so crucial. It shot such high-level porn, with such beautiful actresses, that it pretty much kept the entire industry relevant. North America is scared to go into degrading porn, where their actresses at their raunchiest typically do a DP, and Europe has too much opportunity for women to really want to go into porn, even with the family structure deteriorating like with the rest of the West, there's still too much shame associated with it. Even outside of that - European women really aren't all that hot. But the Russians - they absolutely had it. And the level of output NRX had - and the fact that it was pretty much the home-base of all degrading porn anywhere anymore - meant that actresses that wanted to become O-F famous afterwards, could absolutely do so using NRX as their ladder.

It produced such amazing quality - that it could easily top any cam show and attracts millions of porn enthusiasts - and in turn make itself relevant as the last bastion of studio made porn. But now - with everything else that's going on within Russia - and what's happening with AI on top of that - there are so many uncontrollable factors at play that ... I could honestly see Nick just deciding to stay out of it.

It's like, there's a luxury car! But the keys are in the swamp. And the swamp is filled with alligators. And the alligators are on fire and can shoot lasers from their eyes. At some point - with all the unknowns and the culminative risk - you can't be blamed for losing interest in the car.


Also add the car has a hidden gps tracker in it always that you cant find and Everyone wants to steal your car no matter where you go.

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Re: troubles

Postby Johnny_Wrestling » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:13 am

Any tl dr update?

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Re: troubles

Postby malvarezlaw » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:52 pm

There haven’t been any new social media postings by the NRX, EK players that I’m aware of after Romeo First’s recent posting.

Having thought about this matter a little more, especially with the insights provided by dap-addict, who seems to know a lot about the situation in Russia, it seems that Nick was always playing a risky game because under Russian law individuals are not forbidden from looking at porn, however, the production and distribution of pornographic material can lead to legal action. In theory, the offense can be punished with a prison term, but, in practice, suspended sentences are far more common.

My theory is that Nick, and probably some of the others who started before him, like Mr. Anderson, had an arrangement with someone in a position of authority (possibly in St. Petersburg, Moscow, or both). Perhaps Nick enlarged this arrangement making it possible for the other studios like EK and Faplex to grow. Other less legitimate elements may have also been getting a piece of the pie. At any rate, Nick apparently established himself (at least in his own mind) as the Godfather of Russian porn and was not happy with the competition.

At some point, for unknown reasons, he relocated to Dubai and was running NRX remotely – at least according to Tim Dean. Why that happened is anybody’s guess. Dap-addict has the real story, but he’s a man of discretion and is keeping it close to the vest. Dean has his own take on this, but at the end of the day everyone has their own agenda in this porn drama, so everything has to be taken with a drop of vodka.

Nick decided to kill the competition. Tim claims he was using thugs and extortion tactics. When things got heavy handed, someone ran to the cops. Well, since porn production is illegal, once the police got involved, they had no choice but to shut it all down.

I’m not sure where this leaves us, the fans. Clearly, this was a lucrative business for Nick and a few others. Romeo says he’s looking for a way to restart production, but he’s also running a funding operation which looks suspicious.

I think everyone is going to lay low for a while. Those folks who became very expert at production and recruitment created a very nice business model for themselves and may be looking to restart in another big city in Russia with friendly authorities being given a monetary incentive to not care.

Our friend hyapet, a futurist, has opened my eyes to the coming tsunami of AI porn which will probably redefine porn in the next few years, as most of it will be AI generated without any real meat involved. I think he’s probably right. When that happens, my hope is that dap-addict finds himself a good software engineer and then blows us all away with his mega-perverse AI porn scenes (I’ll pay him extra to include a lot of bbc).

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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:56 am

I respect dap-addict keeping his cards close to his chest. You have to figure - if we found out that the players involved (whoever they may be) did some needlessly dumb or stupid things, acted with malice or greed (all of this being theoretical here) - then ... what? What do we do with that? Besides lose respect for all the people involved and to then look at the artist's work in a way that doesn't concentrate on the art itself.

I'm only interested in the information that tells us when, or even if, NRX studio can open again. If this involves knowing everything else that happened, then it's best if it's just alluded to, like dap-addict has been masterfully doing, rather than laid out entirely full stop.

There is also a lot of he-said/she-said getting your news from six-degrees of separation and general murkiness that dap-addict is no doubt fully aware of as well. It wouldn't be fair if he divulges details he 100% believes to be true, only to find out that it may not have exactly happened that way. Unless you were actually there when all this went down, but even then, who does it really benefit if we just ... don't get the most amazing porn ever to be shot anyways.

If dap-addict has an idea on how this all is going to play out - and can give good guesstimates as to when things might coalesce again - that's great. But, outside of that, knowing exactly what happened brings benefit to whom?

Analvids/Pornbox have been doing everything in their power to try to make up for the shutting down of the Russian studios, but still, on most days it can still really be felt. American Porn stars are becoming increasingly plastic (and just straight up fat), European ones always looked like they walked out of a dry closet after having fallen asleep in there for a couple of months, but the Russians ... man! Absolute perfection. The dry pale skin, the natural features sans surgery or any work done, the natural sly seductive charm that bespeaks innocence and loss of control. Just ... unrivaled. Even the hot western European ones (like Baby Kxtten) are obviously all Slavic or Eastern European in origin.

O-F girls, by no means are you able to categorize them or put them into a single file, but they bring about a sense that they both are being empowered by what they do (they aren't), and that they somehow find it amusing to use men to fill their piggy bank. Regardless, they're "in control," and thus, the fantasy gets swept out of the experience. Watching tens of thousands of girls forever, at their riskiest, use a dildo, just doesn't bring any on-edge excitement to the proceedings.

Natasha Teen - give her full credit - tries her hardest to make the South American NRX. The girl's she gets in there are [I}beautiful.[/I] Like, the Hayek sisters? Unreal. So are many of the others. Some of the hottest ebony and latin girls I've ever seen do porn, hands down. Without question. The odd thing, though ... and this is really a nitpick, but it still matters so much, is that the girl's, even the tiniest of the tiny, do double anal with two baseball bat like cocks like it's as easy as baking cookies. They look like they're having a blast. No discomfort. No trying to hide their pain. It's just like, this is a regular night for these girls. It's like ... okay. Guess they build them differently in South America. But, still ...

The way the Eastern European and Russian girls seriously struggle with double anal, as if they just understood at that second what they got themselves into, is beyond insanely hot. NRX had everything in that regard. And I think the sales figures backed that up.

As far as AI porn goes - it's going to still take a bit - but the proof is in the pudding. And this, again, is just the first generation. AI porn images are literally everywhere. From I-G accounts to O-F accounts to just ... Google showing you sometimes one real girl out of ten images of "busty blonde girl" - and the real one looks like a real bag. Then - and of course - when you feed an AI porn-creator the "source image" of the best girl that anyone else out there has ever made using AI porn - it will constantly get bombarded with the same girl, over and over again, being able to just continuously improve the algorithms for the outputs it generates.

So, unlike what malvarezlaw, you won't need a "software engineer." You will be able to go to a site that, literally, millions of other men are using, and entering the same prompts that, literally, millions of other men have entered, be able to get something produced for you beyond belief. And each video that it will knock out of the park, will just be a building block for the next one coming up in a couple weeks that will be even better.

And we're not talking about twenty or thirty dollars per video here, either. More like, a subscription of twenty bucks a month will allow you to make up to thirty videos, with a combined three hours worth of content. Including remakes when you aren't satisfied with the output. For all the BBC fans out there - this is going to get pretty crazy.

We're still a bit off from that, of course, but anyone like Nick who's in the game, has to take into account all the risks that would be present when going into such an endeavor. As long as the money is there, we will always get some kind of product from Pornbox/Analvids, and I honestly believe they strive to make the absolute best quality content they possibly can. Zero doubt.

But, as can be seen from the number of porn studios packing up their production across the Globe, change is happening. Whether we, or they, like it or not. There is a clock, becoming ever more visible, ticking away the amount of time left where this all a viable operation. It really sucks what happened to NRX and Erika Korti studios. But, even if they wanted to re-open them in half a year or a year, under a different name, in a different location ...

There's no guarantee the market will always be there. Or, to the same degree. There is only so much money allocated for spending in porn. There is a ceiling. And with more players and actors in the business overall (AI - O-F), those slices of pie are becoming smaller. And that's even for the best of the best porn studio to ever exist.

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Re: troubles

Postby horst.adler85 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:37 pm

Still no statement?

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Re: troubles

Postby horst.adler85 » Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:45 pm

eks is dropping new scenes and still no news here

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Re: troubles

Postby malvarezlaw » Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:27 am

Question for dap-addict. Are the new EK scenes actually new, or are these scenes they had in the can and hadn't released yet?

Secondly, even if the new scenes were filmed prior to the troubles, their release would still violate Russian law which prohibits production AND distribution. Could this mean that the situation in Russia is improving? Is this a sign of hope?

By the way, I think the players are silent on social media because they realized it was a mistake to air their personal drama in public. I'm hoping that behind the curtain some of them are getting their shit together and looking to resume production.

Also, the new scenes are not safe and mild. They're as hard as EK and NRX were producing.
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Re: troubles

Postby dap-addict » Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:41 am

It's not new EKS scenes but scenes shot by EKY before the police raids.
I bet NRX will soon do the same or they will fraudulently re-release old scenes. :mad: :(
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Re: troubles

Postby hyapet » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:12 am

You only can give so many updates before they don't really mean anything anymore.

People want the porn. It's as simple as that. If the update says something like, "Hey, we're shooting again!" Or, "Here's a shot of all the talent we're working with today!" Then that is something. But, other than that, to keep on being like, "One day we'll make porn again ..." after being out of the game for a quarter of the year ... it doesn't give anybody the feeling that anything is actually happening.

Not that shooting porn is simple, but it isn't a Hollywood production either. You get the talent, you get the location, you get the equipment, and you can shoot it in a day. In an afternoon if everything claps. There are simply elements of the whole thing that are out of the control of the folks at NRX or EKS. Simple as that. If there's blame to be assigned, assigning it isn't going to make anyone feel better or for the porn to keep on being shot.

As for EKS releasing scenes - that has nothing to do with Russia. Pornbox and everybody besides NRX and EKS are located in Europe. They were probably given the scenes from the folks that ran those studios - and that might not be the best of signs. It could be like, "Yeah - it's over. Just release what we got and call it a day." I mean, what are the Russian police going to do? Come over to Europe and arrest the people there? Right? So ...

Them releasing the scenes might not be the best of signs. It could be like, "It's a lost cause now - just release what we got." If there was a chance for those studios to continue production - and the authorities were something to be dealt with in a way other than just paying them off - then they probably would've started slow again. And as they got into the heavier shoots again - they would compensate the authorities appropriately. Everyone's happy when everyone's getting paid.

I really don't know. Maybe them releasing the EKS stuff now is them leading up to releasing new material. I really don't know.

Still though - them staying silent on social media is smart. The last thing the authorities that are in control of keeping this stuff shut down (supposedly) need is a bunch of the producers jumping around on social media being like, "Yay! We're shooting porn again! In Russia! Just you wait! Some real nasty shit is coming!"

I really don't know. But the EKS stuff being released is a sign. It could be anything, really. But, whatever it is, it is indeed something.

What that something is - I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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Re: troubles

Postby dap-addict » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:34 am

hyapet wrote:Still though - them staying silent on social media is smart. The last thing the authorities that are in control of keeping this stuff shut down (supposedly) need is a bunch of the producers jumping around on social media being like, "Yay! We're shooting porn again! In Russia! Just you wait! Some real nasty shit is coming!"

You are sure right that it wouldn't be wise to brag about shooting locally again.
All I can tell you here is that I know it is still happening, but it's low level.
Let's see first how much some re-location works.
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