Two Female Models Positive for Syphilis in Czech Republic

[therealdanleal]

[xxx edit] The article below is a bunch of uninformed crap. Here is what we know :

This dude from germany got positive. Props to him for announcing it publicly. It is very likely that his infection came from other people previously infected in Hungary earlier in the same year, who kept quiet and kept working, but we can't know for sure.

This person worked with many girls who supposedly were quarantined, but we have not heard of anything related to all the persons they worked with, and this is, in my opinion, where things started to go wrong. Budapest handled the situation by setting those girls aside but apparently no one cared to check who these girls worked with (probably a ton of people, and for the record none of them worked for LP).

Later, 2 girls (not czech) were infected as well. It was not possible to establish a direct link between them and the guy, nor any of the many girls he worked with. The article naively claims "These two instances are completely unrelated" but you can judge for yourself : do you think syphilis magically travelled to these girls even though there was not a case since 2012 before, knowing that models travel a lot from Prague to Budapest? It would have probably been possible to find a link, had the full planning of everyone involved in Budapest been determined, but no one gave a fuck.

These girls were not infected on a LP set as everyone else was tested multiple times since then and none of our actors were positive.

This fake article is trying to make it sound like we are "company A" who knew everything and tried to hide everything. In reality the opposite happenned : we are the ones who spread the word about these new cases and tried to establish their full planning, contrary to what was done in Budapest.

Some talk about one of the 2 girls : initially she received a "grey zone" result. This stuff happens literally ALL THE TIME. Everyone would be perma-quarantined if we had to shut everything down as soon as we see something like that (but we never let people with this result work). What I am saying is that no one took these results seriously because we had countless of them over the years and they were always false positives. This girl then disappeared from our radar for a while.

Another myth I saw on that trash forum ADT (where you can always count on moderators to jump in and shut them up once someone reasons against the delirium) is that those models (or at least one of them) only worked for us : this is completely false : they both worked for several other companies during the suspicious period. Have you heard of these companies? Nop, cause people are only obsessed with us.

Hard fact : our (gonzo) testing standard is the highest of the entire industry : we only accept up to 1 week old tests. Most of the time everyone has a fresh test from the same day (Monday).

Bottom line : it is very easy to make whoever speaks out to look bad, easy to make it look like "they are the source and the cause of problem", because many other people just shut up and tried to hide that they were positive. It is clear that in that case a bunch of people tried to stay under the radar and that caused extra infections.

There is a lot of jealousy towards us for several reasons and you can bet some pricks were disappointed we were not caught doing whatever they love to pretend we do, but still many idiots will believe anything. Something for these people : if you ate up the info in this article : you are a retard and you probably swallowed a lot more disinformation and propaganda from all sources over the years.



LOS ANGELES—Two female models in the Czech Republic have tested positive for syphilis, according to Europe-based producer Dan Leal, the CEO of Immoral Productions.

The first of these two models, Patient A, found out that she was infected on December 12 when she tested at Prevedig lab in the Czech Republic.

"This lab has an arrangement with a production company in Prague that we will call Company A," Leal said. "The lab sends the results of the tests to directors of Company A and those directors notify talent if there are any issues, rather than the lab calling performers."

When Patient A found out that she had syphilis neither her Czech agent nor the director at Company A told anyone about her results and she began treatment, Leal said.

"Instead of letting the other performers she worked with know that she was positive and had been exposed to syphilis they all kept silent," he said. "The performers who were exposed all kept working thereby possibly exposing numerous others to syphilis. According to a contract director of Company A, it is not the lab's responsibility to notify performers if they have been exposed to syphilis."

On November 20, a German performer named Jason Steel was notified by Interlab in Budapest that he tested positive for syphilis. He announced on Twitter that he had contracted syphilis and began cooperating with everyone so it would not spread. With the help of Interlab and two agents in Budapest (Jul Models and Brill Babes) they contacted the eight models with whom he worked. All eight models were quarantined and told not to shoot again until the New Year. The reason that these eight models were prohibited from working for so long is that it takes up to six weeks for syphilis to be detected, Leal said. Patient A was not one of the eight models who worked with Jason, nor did she work with any of the eight exposed female models.

These two instances are completely unrelated other than that patient A and Steel both worked in Prague.

Patient A and her agent mistakenly thought that she would be able to get a new test that would show she no longer had syphilis after only three weeks of treatment, according to Leal. She attempted this test at another lab in Prague, he said. When this lab found out that she had syphilis it came to light that she was aware of her condition, and so were her agent in the Czech Republic as well as the director and lab—all of whom did not reveal the result, Leal said.

"This is why myself and numerous others just now became [aware] of this scandal," he added.

Patient A was in a large group orgy scene on November 13 for Company A; now another model, Patient B, who was unaware that she had been exposed in this scene, has tested positive for syphilis as well, Leal reported.

"As a result of the inexcusable and irresponsible behavior, we have decided that we will no longer accept any tests from any lab that does not post their results online and notify performers when they have been exposed to syphilis or any other life-threatening STIs," Leal said.

"As a result of previous Syphilis situation in Europe Interlab in Budapest requires performers to sign a consent form. This form allows the lab to release their results to the agents and any performers that may have [been] exposed in the event of a positive life-threatening STI. To the best of our knowledge, Interlab in Budapest is the only lab that does this. In the event a performer does not have a test from Interlab we will pay for it. Brill Babes agency in Budapest has agreed to the same policy for companies that book their models."

[JohnnyMcSpunkencock]

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We know who not to listen to. Ignore the old French blackmailer in Budapest and the rest will become clearer and resolved.

It's stopping these things from happening in every porn heavy country in the first place that's what really matters

[pastaga]

I've always been pro LP and ignoring what that PW guy says.
But this time I can't get any other version of the story. Clearly looks like the agent or the studio have done something wrong.
Would love to hear another version, but for now the only one I have isn't in LP favour...

[dap-addict]

"As a result of previous Syphilis situation in Europe Interlab in Budapest requires performers to sign a consent form. This form allows the lab to release their results to the agents and any performers that may have [been] exposed in the event of a positive life-threatening STI. To the best of our knowledge, Interlab in Budapest is the only lab that does this. In the event a performer does not have a test from Interlab we will pay for it. Brill Babes agency in Budapest has agreed to the same policy for companies that book their models."

All till here reads fine, but than here it starts to sound fishy:
Interlay in Budapest has less strict lab test parameters and tests less points than both mentioned Prague labs as we know.
Also Interlay is always cited by the blackmailer lier ape as a very good example. Now therealdanleal (= Dan Leal?) does the same.
Was he payed to do so by the welknows lier ape or blackmailed to do so?

[ayrtight]

^
Probably he is , bcuz he posted the same message under pornodan at EBI .

[angel19751978]

Who are the infected models?

[therealdanleal]

"As a result of previous Syphilis situation in Europe Interlab in Budapest requires performers to sign a consent form. This form allows the lab to release their results to the agents and any performers that may have [been] exposed in the event of a positive life-threatening STI. To the best of our knowledge, Interlab in Budapest is the only lab that does this. In the event a performer does not have a test from Interlab we will pay for it. Brill Babes agency in Budapest has agreed to the same policy for companies that book their models."

All till here reads fine, but than here it starts to sound fishy:
Interlay in Budapest has less strict lab test parameters and tests less points than both mentioned Prague labs as we know.
Also Interlay is always cited by the blackmailer lier ape as a very good example. Now therealdanleal (= Dan Leal?) does the same.
Was he payed to do so by the welknows lier ape or blackmailed to do so?

I stated why Interlab is the only lab we will accept from now,

First, they have an online database, so it is impossible for talent to fake a test.

Second, if they work with the agents to notify everyone who is exposed if there is a positive test

[Giorgio Grandi]

"The lab sends the results of the tests to directors of Company A and those directors notify talent if there are any issues, rather than the lab calling performers"

Bullshits, the lab notify the performer and call them for "consultation" while the national lab confirm the result (2-6 days), if the performer did not "execute" the medical test "on his own", but in the "account" of a agency or producer, then the producer and agency are notified as well. Legally if someone is confirmed positive he/she is listed immediately on the national database and all clinics know about this.
Said that, a lab in Cz cant say someone is positive to syphilis, but only the national lab can, this is why every test "not negative" takes 2-6 days for get confirmed as negative or positive from National lab.

From my investigation when David was tested positive, in Hungary it is the same, but instead interlab took the decision that supposed do not be allowed to take (Inject a generation of actor based on 1 positive test that has not been confirmed and 1 fake positive that has been confirmed as fake from Prevedig in Prague. I paid the trip for the performers to Prague and it showed up one was positive to clamidia when 2 days before it was not positive in Budapest)
Test of interlab for chlamydia and gonorrhea is done with microscopy instead of a PCR, as in uganda, totally unreliable.

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"The performers who were exposed all kept working thereby possibly exposing numerous others to syphilis. According to a contract director of Company A, it is not the lab's responsibility to notify performers if they have been exposed to syphilis"
The lab in Cz doesnt share information with all the industry as its a "must" of the performer (and eventually agency/producer) to do so. This is something you cant point out as a fault as you are pointing internal regulations of the czech republic that evidently can not be "circumvented" with a signature on a piece of paper only, otherwise we would have already done it. Also, if you read carefully the last GDPR there are interesting indications about this... ah no Im sorry, came one, you are from Budapest, you can say and write what the fuck you want and what ever interlab does is good and others are crap. Wake up.

I dont even comment the rest, you assume something without to have enough information, something is almost correct but most is pure trash. I am wonder how is possible that AVN publish something about this from someone that doesnt even live in Czech Republic and is not even working to list and link people

If you dont know facts is maybe better do not try to look cool, because you look like a fool.

[angel19751978]

They could mention the name of the girls.

[pastaga]

All of these stories doesn't explain how two positive models have been able to shoot. There sure has been people who knew it. And they didn't do a thing.

Also, better keep the names privates. But they're two popular models who started in the XMas orgy.

[Giorgio Grandi]

Just to explain it better:
No one performed tested positive performed anywhere. There are some unfortunate behavior but no one performer with a positive test has been involved in any scene.

All of these stories doesn't explain how two positive models have been able to shoot. There sure has been people who knew it. And they didn't do a thing.

Also, better keep the names privates. But they're two popular models who started in the XMas orgy.

[dap-addict]

They could mention the name of the girls.

No!
They should not!
This doesnt belong here into an open forum!
Nameing them girl A and girl B is about the only professional thing this Porn Dan poster did here. The rest is conglomerate of crap and reads like lier ape blackmailer payed or worse.

[angel19751978]

After the treatment, return to
 LP, to finish the pending scenes,

[lambok]

Just to explain it better:
No one performed tested positive performed anywhere. There are some unfortunate behavior but no one performer with a positive test has been involved in any scene.

So that Charlie Dean´s tweet is bullshit? Beacuse he seems to be quite angry and says that someone poitive was involved in scene. Or did I misunderstood?

[Giorgio Grandi]

A dumb agent sent a positive (dumb) model to work, but clearly she did not work as her medical test was positive (she got even tested the same day of shooting, both thoughts such disease get cured in 2 weeks).
Charlie was angry because the model was booked, not because she performed.

These situations need to be handle with a lot of attention, rumors and false information can distract from the main job: guarantee the safety of performers

quote="lambok"]

Just to explain it better:
No one performed tested positive performed anywhere. There are some unfortunate behavior but no one performer with a positive test has been involved in any scene.

So that Charlie Dean´s tweet is bullshit? Beacuse he seems to be quite angry and says that someone poitive was involved in scene. Or did I misunderstood?[/quote]

[pastaga]

A dumb agent sent a positive (dumb) model to work, but clearly she did not work as her medical test was positive (she got even tested the same day of shooting, both thoughts such disease get cured in 2 weeks).
Charlie was angry because the model was booked, not because she performed.

So what about the second girl ? I've understood she got it from the first one...

[kidloco2]

Why I'm thinking Giorgio is one of only a few ppl in the industry who actually has the right approach on keeping adult business safe?
Locally retesting every girl coming from other state is really good approach and everybody should stick to it.

Btw I have always thought that test results should be shared between testing centers across borders regardless of state. If EU can have a system for rapid warning against dangerous products etc., why not have something similar for porn industry.

[therealdanleal]

"The lab sends the results of the tests to directors of Company A and those directors notify talent if there are any issues, rather than the lab calling performers"

Bullshits, the lab notify the performer and call them for "consultation" while the national lab confirm the result (2-6 days), if the performer did not "execute" the medical test "on his own", but in the "account" of a agency or producer, then the producer and agency are notified as well. Legally if someone is confirmed positive he/she is listed immediately on the national database and all clinics know about this.
Said that, a lab in Cz cant say someone is positive to syphilis, but only the national lab can, this is why every test "not negative" takes 2-6 days for get confirmed as negative or positive from National lab.

From my investigation when David was tested positive, in Hungary it is the same, but instead interlab took the decision that supposed do not be allowed to take (Inject a generation of actor based on 1 positive test that has not been confirmed and 1 fake positive that has been confirmed as fake from Prevedig in Prague. I paid the trip for the performers to Prague and it showed up one was positive to clamidia when 2 days before it was not positive in Budapest)
Test of interlab for chlamydia and gonorrhea is done with microscopy instead of a PCR, as in uganda, totally unreliable.

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"The performers who were exposed all kept working thereby possibly exposing numerous others to syphilis. According to a contract director of Company A, it is not the lab's responsibility to notify performers if they have been exposed to syphilis"
The lab in Cz doesnt share information with all the industry as its a "must" of the performer (and eventually agency/producer) to do so. This is something you cant point out as a fault as you are pointing internal regulations of the czech republic that evidently can not be "circumvented" with a signature on a piece of paper only, otherwise we would have already done it. Also, if you read carefully the last GDPR there are interesting indications about this... ah no Im sorry, came one, you are from Budapest, you can say and write what the fuck you want and what ever interlab does is good and others are crap. Wake up.

I dont even comment the rest, you assume something without to have enough information, something is almost correct but most is pure trash. I am wonder how is possible that AVN publish something about this from someone that doesnt even live in Czech Republic and is not even working to list and link people

If you dont know facts is maybe better do not try to look cool, because you look like a fool.

If you think it a good business practice to wait up to six days to confirm a positive life-threatening STI then more power to you and that is your business.

I feel it is a better course of action is to quarantine everyone who had level one exposure (direct exposure) immediately after a confirmed positive case.

I spoke with numerous individuals who worked for Company A in the above-mentioned scene and NONE of them were aware of the positive syphilis case until very recently.

I understand that you feel it is necessary to respect privacy, and so do I; however, in cases like this public safety is of the utmost importance

That is why we sign consent forms at Interlab and they that notify all performers exposed immediately.

[Giorgio Grandi]

I am not going to argue with you about internal rules in Cz, but in hungary I believe is not different. To wait for a confirmation for David perry 16 months ago would have saved all the performers for been injected with useless antibiotics, instead than inject people directly the day after (saturday). As a matter of facts no one else was positive, so to do everything on the fly, without to use the brain, is stupid.

You connect the models together in one scene in November, but the reality is that the scene was 2 months ago, so its out of range, we should have plenty of positive people we do not have. Again you do not know facts, there no prove that the 2 positive performers where positive at that day (actually is pretty clear they was not).

We defend public safety finding connection between the infected performers and all the others, you do not protect public safety writing something on a forum or magazine, this just create panic and for sure we do not solve anything proclaiming the stop of production that not even 50% of producers will respect.

You maybe respect privacy but you are no one for say something about that matter in this specific case as you do not have any clue of what is going on. You should ask, take notes and then if you really want to look cool, you need to have the balls to write the name of who fucked up, but then refuse to work with that person and who is behind for ever, no matter what.

Here is europe, we do not have smt as fsc, but we have common sense, its enough to use it, everyone.

"The lab sends the results of the tests to directors of Company A and those directors notify talent if there are any issues, rather than the lab calling performers"

Bullshits, the lab notify the performer and call them for "consultation" while the national lab confirm the result (2-6 days), if the performer did not "execute" the medical test "on his own", but in the "account" of a agency or producer, then the producer and agency are notified as well. Legally if someone is confirmed positive he/she is listed immediately on the national database and all clinics know about this.
Said that, a lab in Cz cant say someone is positive to syphilis, but only the national lab can, this is why every test "not negative" takes 2-6 days for get confirmed as negative or positive from National lab.

From my investigation when David was tested positive, in Hungary it is the same, but instead interlab took the decision that supposed do not be allowed to take (Inject a generation of actor based on 1 positive test that has not been confirmed and 1 fake positive that has been confirmed as fake from Prevedig in Prague. I paid the trip for the performers to Prague and it showed up one was positive to clamidia when 2 days before it was not positive in Budapest)
Test of interlab for chlamydia and gonorrhea is done with microscopy instead of a PCR, as in uganda, totally unreliable.

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"The performers who were exposed all kept working thereby possibly exposing numerous others to syphilis. According to a contract director of Company A, it is not the lab's responsibility to notify performers if they have been exposed to syphilis"
The lab in Cz doesnt share information with all the industry as its a "must" of the performer (and eventually agency/producer) to do so. This is something you cant point out as a fault as you are pointing internal regulations of the czech republic that evidently can not be "circumvented" with a signature on a piece of paper only, otherwise we would have already done it. Also, if you read carefully the last GDPR there are interesting indications about this... ah no Im sorry, came one, you are from Budapest, you can say and write what the fuck you want and what ever interlab does is good and others are crap. Wake up.

I dont even comment the rest, you assume something without to have enough information, something is almost correct but most is pure trash. I am wonder how is possible that AVN publish something about this from someone that doesnt even live in Czech Republic and is not even working to list and link people

If you dont know facts is maybe better do not try to look cool, because you look like a fool.

If you think it a good business practice to wait up to six days to confirm a positive life-threatening STI then more power to you and that is your business.

I feel it is a better course of action is to quarantine everyone who had level one exposure (direct exposure) immediately after a confirmed positive case.

I spoke with numerous individuals who worked for Company A in the above-mentioned scene and NONE of them were aware of the positive syphilis case until very recently.

I understand that you feel it is necessary to respect privacy, and so do I; however, in cases like this public safety is of the utmost importance

That is why we sign consent forms at Interlab and they that notify all performers exposed immediately.

[lambok]

A dumb agent sent a positive (dumb) model to work, but clearly she did not work as her medical test was positive (she got even tested the same day of shooting, both thoughts such disease get cured in 2 weeks).
Charlie was angry because the model was booked, not because she performed.

Wow. So some porn actress showed up on porn set with test paper saying she has some STD? Lol, well, I never thought that porn business will be full of Einsteins, but this is really so stupid I must laugh, OMG

[IIdarksoulII]

[quote="Giorgio Grandi"... Just to explain it better:
No one performed tested positive performed anywhere. There are some unfortunate behavior but no one performer with a positive test has been involved in any scene.[/quote]

^

[Iddaoeeok]

I must admit, I'm having problems following what's going on here.

[dap-addict]

Its probably too sensitive an issue for discussion in a foreign language or worse without knowledge of local realities or even European culture.

[dap-addict]

I must admit, I'm having problems following what's going on here.

Looks like 3-4 GIO studs are on quarantine since a few days.
Plus 1 actress, and 1 not sure yet.
Anyway, safe is safe.

[LegalPorno2016]

I must admit, I'm having problems following what's going on here.

Looks like 3-4 GIO studs are on quarantine since a few days.
Plus 1 actress, and 1 not sure yet.
Anyway, safe is safe.

How do you know this? Please explain...If true you are right better to be safe. Wish them a fast recovery.

[dap-addict]

They have been tested negative already, but syphilis has quite a long incubation time.
Thus quarantaine is the only way to contain a further spreading.
All studs have worked on gonzo X-mas scene.

I must admit, I'm having problems following what's going on here.

Looks like 3-4 GIO studs are on quarantine since a few days.
Plus 1 actress, and 1 not sure yet.
Anyway, safe is safe.

Correction: 4 tested negative studs on quarantine to stay on the safe side + 1 stud not sure yet.
Quarantaine lasts for sure 3 to 4 more weeks for them, than re-testing.
Also some girls taking penicillin injections and calling off all bookings.

[gapefan]

Doing damage control on ADT:

Legal Porno - thoughts?

[dap-addict]

Thanks, gape fan!
We mustnt leave the lier ape fraction all space on this! Thus thank you so much for that damage control!

Btw, sb of them claimed there was a Europe wide stop on porn production from Jan 16th already. Doenst make much sense if outbreak is handled with quarantaines for those really involved instead of again forcing 100s girls and studs to take penicillininjections as they did last time in Bp. But anyway, does sb know more about this alleged total shutdown?

[Iddaoeeok]

Doing damage control on ADT:

Legal Porno - thoughts?

Well done, Gapefan. There's an awful lot of jealous people out there.

[LastGangInTown]

I know PW hates Legal Porno, but to compare Giorgio to Hitler is going way too fucking far… “it's like Hitler telling you how to save the Jews in 1940” … WTF?!?!? PW has hit an all-time low...

[Giorgio Grandi]

Unfortunately, few people in this industry are not capable to understand that internet changed the path. In 90ies you could have built a career (a trust relationship with a distributor of DVD) just bad mouthing the others. Now as we deal directly with the customers, the main point are the content/technology and not your relationship with whom distributes them. As you can see, 99% of who was "big" in 90ies, now doesnt even exist anymore. Its normal, if you shoot the same content as 20 years ago, the result is outdated. People from 90ies have dug they own grave in the moment they did not want to share the cake with new people (and new ideas), they forced us to do it alone and with the internet there is no need for "senators" or "generals" to support us, and now they blame anyone for their failures.

I know PW hates Legal Porno, but to compare Giorgio to Hitler is going way too fucking far… “it's like Hitler telling you how to save the Jews in 1940” … WTF?!?!? PW has hit an all-time low...

[xxx]

Edited first post (i was away during this mess and had little access to my usual communication tools).

[YumYum74]

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[Sweep11]

Agreed Yumyum. Sending best wishes and love to all affected.

[dap-addict]

Edited first post (i was away during this mess and had little access to my usual communication tools).

What was it about here?



Btw, too bad only xxx can edit posts and not all of us.

[blublubeacha]

it's good only xxx can edit posts

[dap-addict]

Anyway.
But what did he post originally?
Also behind all that anti-LP campaigning and Bp cooked lies, is it true that there is/was an European wide production stop for porn scenes?

[YumYum74]

Think xxx only added to the first post. Original post looks like it’s still the same, as far as one can tell with such a long post obviously. Don’t know about the rest.

[0zerofrequency]

Syphilis...that's going old school. Must be some serious fucking going on! In all seriousness, that's very scary. Hope they can track the source and get it under control.

[xxx]

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