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Virtual reality studio

Postby AfricaBambata » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:31 pm

Hello,

Would analvids plan to create a VR studio in the futur?
You guys have a huge potential. I believe that a lot of people dream to see more interracial scenes in VR.
You have the most beautiful actress and the best actors, it would be better than all other european VR studios.

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Postby petermc934 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:25 pm

I would love to see any of the LP studios do some VR scenes. No one is shooting VR pissing scenes or puking scenes, they barely even shoot any anal scenes. There’s a huge gap in the market for an extreme sex vr porn site.

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Pboxer88 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:38 am

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby transdude » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:16 am

Seriously, I wish that LP would get on board with vr virtual reality videos. It's the future

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Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:29 pm

Here's my yes vote. VR adoption is growing fast, and there's a hole in the market

I'd pay double tickets for good VR hardcore gonzo scenes and know I'm not alone. 99 percent of VR is 1 on 1 girlfriend simulators or FFM scenes. I won't name sites or titles, but a few examples out there of LP style in VR are Billlie Star gangbang with a cop, there's a Tina Kay blowbang scene, a Veronika Leal 8 man blowbang scene, and gloryhole scenes with Verena Maxima and Eveline Delai. It's amazing in these scenes, either in POV or non POV, seeing the girl get a rough blowjob and cumshots in VR, very immersive. Also things like gaping and manhandling are amazing and rare in VR.
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Postby DPraved » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm

I agree! AnalVids style in virtual reality would be spectacular. I guess camera movement would make you quite motion sick, but I would definitely be willing to try it. :)
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Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:14 pm

DPraved wrote:I agree! AnalVids style in virtual reality would be spectacular. I guess camera movement would make you quite motion sick, but I would definitely be willing to try it. :)


If you look up the Billie Star one I referred to, which actually has dudes that shoot for LP (5 dudes total) the camera movement is minimal. And unlike for gaming, which I have gotten motion sickness from, I haven't from VR porn. I think 10 on 1s and stuff like that would be more challenging to show action on once, but it is to some degree in 2d as well as there are only so many holes to go around...lol. VR also has the advantage that besides moving your head around to see the action you want, you can zoom in and out. So it can be filmed slightly further back than the ideal spot just to provide perspective options.

Anyway, those vids I mentioned above made me a believer, I suggest checking them out of if you have a VR headset. But good lord Avids would be able to do it better than anyone and be more hardcore about it. 12 tickets? Whatever, count me in.
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby DPraved » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:33 pm

Thank you for the recommendatios Pboxer, I'll look them up. :)
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Pboxer88 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:18 pm

For those interested there's a "Gangbang for student slut" with Katy Rose MMMMF (one of the M being you obviously) on one of the main VR sites. I mention it here because I recognize two of the guys from avids are on it too, so there must be some kind of cross-awareness. If you're using Skybox on Oculus (Meta), I'd recommend a zoom of 0.5 as the default zero is way too close in.
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:47 pm

I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Pboxer88 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:28 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?


When you ask that question i assume you mean do we own a VR headset and do we watch VR porn.
I do. The Meta Quest 2 sold millions last year and that's what I bought. Other than this site, I almost exclusively watch VR porn now. It's no fad, Giorgio, only growing.

If you or any other studios test it out for the love of god watch CzechVR in 8k on the quest 2, and follow that example with an 8k camera. The scenes i mentioned above is a great sample of what more gonzo style could look like in VR.

Dude and if you did avids gonzo content with an 8k camera, you can 10 tickets a scene coming your way.
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Starrio » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:37 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?


I use a 120 inch projector screen with a side by side stereoscopic 3D projector.

I honestly believe 3D is a much better experience than 4K, and the projector does both.

The problem is that 3D porn doesn't exist anymore since 2013.

However I still cherish my collection of 3D porn videos from the era.

What I have is mostly Russian studios stuff ala Giorgio's Lab. I would still be subscribed, but those sites no longer exist.

It would be amazing if that format was still available, but the market for it is small.

It is sad indeed, but at least we have VR now, which is a huge market, and growing.

For VR I have the Oculus Quest 2. I bought it at launch and it has been solid. I have been watching VR stuff since the days of the Samsung Gear VR in 2015.

For VR there is a lot of great content nowadays, however anal is definitely lacking in that format.

In terms of sites, I am permanently subscribed to Virtual Taboo VR, and Dark Room VR.

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Postby Starrio » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:42 pm

About resolution 7K VR and 8K VR is pretty standard now, anything below that feels too old by now. But there have been great 4K, 5K, and 6K releases in the past.

However must people expect at least 7K nowadays. Once you get spoiled with the higher resolutions, it is just too hard to go back.

It would be awesome to have some Russian studios doing anal VR stuff, or Czech studios too, but it is mostly pussy stuff what you find, with just some anal here and there.

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Postby Pboxer88 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:59 pm

Starrio wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?


I use a 120 inch projector screen with a side by side stereoscopic 3D projector.

I honestly believe 3D is a much better experience than 4K, and the projector does both.

The problem is that 3D porn doesn't exist anymore since 2013.

However I still cherish my collection of 3D porn videos from the era.

What I have is mostly Russian studios stuff ala Giorgio's Lab. I would still be subscribed, but those sites no longer exist.

It would be amazing if that format was still available, but the market for it is small.

It is sad indeed, but at least we have VR now, which is a huge market, and growing.

For VR I have the Oculus Quest 2. I bought it at launch and it has been solid. I have been watching VR stuff since the days of the Samsung Gear VR in 2015.

For VR there is a lot of great content nowadays, however anal is definitely lacking in that format.

In terms of sites, I am permanently subscribed to Virtual Taboo VR, and Dark Room VR.


Those two sites are cool, while we are name dropping I'd add POVR and Sexlikereal.

To piggy back on the above Giorgio, 3d porn I'm sure was cool but is dead and will stay that way. VR on the other hand is getting bigger every year because it's a more ideal state of 3D. Again, id go for an 8k 180 degrees cam.

Meta (Facebook) is releasing a new VR headset sometime this year, and PLaystation Vr2 was already announced, and Apple's first headset is rumored for 2023 (not to mention possible development on Valve Index 2, and new high end sets) so competition will be fierce and your user base would grow over time.
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Postby Pboxer88 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:03 pm

Starrio wrote:About resolution 7K VR and 8K VR is pretty standard now, anything below that feels too old by now. But there have been great 4K, 5K, and 6K releases in the past.

However must people expect at least 7K nowadays. Once you get spoiled with the higher resolutions, it is just too hard to go back.

It would be awesome to have some Russian studios doing anal VR stuff, or Czech studios too, but it is mostly pussy stuff what you find, with just some anal here and there.


I agree that 7k 60 fps is minimum nowadays. In VR, 4k and 5k files are pretty trash. Some people also dont realize that even though headsets are mostly only around 4k right now on the lenses, you're only seeing a small portion of the frame at once, so you need between 7k and 8k res just to take full advantage of a 4k headset.
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Postby Starrio » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:31 pm

Pboxer88 wrote:To piggy back on the above Giorgio, 3d porn I'm sure was cool but is dead and will stay that way.


It is honestly amazing. Specially with a projector screen because it looks like you are having a live show in your room. Since my projector screen is 120" the girls look life size when they go down on each other, so it is basically like an Augmented Reality (AR) experience. It is a shame not many people get to experience this, but at least we have VR now.

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Postby Pboxer88 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:59 pm

No I get it. I mean I'm sure it was amazing. I just wanted to make sure Giorgio studio understood the distinction because they phrased their question kind of oddly. VR is here to stay, it's not really comparable to the 3d movement in terms of scope, because 3d was truly more of a fad while VR is a large scale format change in multiple industries for multiple purposes.
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Postby Starrio » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:09 pm

Pboxer88 wrote:No I get it. I mean I'm sure it was amazing. I just wanted to make sure Giorgio studio understood the distinction because they phrased their question kind of oddly. VR is here to stay, it's not really comparable to the 3d movement in terms of scope, because 3d was truly more of a fad while VR is a large scale format change in multiple industries for multiple purposes.


3D is still huge in China, but it pretty much died everywhere else, basically everyone moved to VR.

Hopefully we'll get some AR in the future. AR can be more impressive than VR because it is mixed with your own reality.

AR would then be the equivalent of 3D, just a modern version of it. In a way VR is 3D as well, but just with a gyroscope and an accelerometer instead.

Sadly AR is still far away in terms of being widely available to the public. But hopefully this will change in the near future.

VR is already mainstream though, and growing.

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Starrio wrote:
Pboxer88 wrote:No I get it. I mean I'm sure it was amazing. I just wanted to make sure Giorgio studio understood the distinction because they phrased their question kind of oddly. VR is here to stay, it's not really comparable to the 3d movement in terms of scope, because 3d was truly more of a fad while VR is a large scale format change in multiple industries for multiple purposes.


3D is still huge in China, but it pretty much died everywhere else, basically everyone moved to VR.

Hopefully we'll get some AR in the future. AR can be more impressive than VR because it is mixed with your own reality.

AR would then be the equivalent of 3D, just a modern version of it. In a way VR is 3D as well, but just with a gyroscope and an accelerometer instead.

Sadly AR is still far away in terms of being widely available to the public. But hopefully this will change in the near future.

VR is already mainstream though, and growing.


So, do I really need to study all of this in your opinion?
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Giorgio Grandi wrote:
Starrio wrote:
Pboxer88 wrote:No I get it. I mean I'm sure it was amazing. I just wanted to make sure Giorgio studio understood the distinction because they phrased their question kind of oddly. VR is here to stay, it's not really comparable to the 3d movement in terms of scope, because 3d was truly more of a fad while VR is a large scale format change in multiple industries for multiple purposes.


3D is still huge in China, but it pretty much died everywhere else, basically everyone moved to VR.

Hopefully we'll get some AR in the future. AR can be more impressive than VR because it is mixed with your own reality.

AR would then be the equivalent of 3D, just a modern version of it. In a way VR is 3D as well, but just with a gyroscope and an accelerometer instead.

Sadly AR is still far away in terms of being widely available to the public. But hopefully this will change in the near future.

VR is already mainstream though, and growing.


So, do I really need to study all of this in your opinion?


I'll let Starrio respond but I will as well since I was quoted.

The answer is no, you dont need to study the history lesson stuff here to successfully film in VR.

All you would need is to obtain a VR 180 degrees camera (at 7k resolution or better) that can make VR vids playable on modern headsets (like the Meta quest 2 which has sold over 10 million units). There are several on the market.

If you need evidence that a boom is underway just browse through some of following VR exclusive sites:

CzechVR
VRBangers
Dark Room VR
Virtual Taboo
POVR
Sexlikereal

These are just a small handful of whats available. The shortage is not in VR porn available, the shortage is gonzo style content in VR. There is some but only a handful of videos, which are mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Postby Starrio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:47 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:So, do I really need to study all of this in your opinion?


There is no need.

The only thing that matters is to use at least a 7K VR camera similar to the one they use in Dark Room VR, and Virtual Taboo VR, because anything under 7K doesn't look appealing anymore since all the costumers are already spoiled with the higher resolutions.

4K, 5K, and 6K look OK, but honestly most people will pass when better resolutions are widely available nowadays on the popular sites.

Other than that, the only other thing to consider is that most costumers are used to POV on VR, whether is American Studios like Naughty America, European Studios like Czech VR, or Japanese Studios like Idea pocket or S1 No.1 Style.

If the studio is exclusively made for VR I would say a first person approach approach is usually what people expect, similar to what you see on the fisting videos of The Wonder Toys Training Studio or the BTS style of XfreaX.

However if VR is just another format option to the regular Giorgio Grandi and Giorgio's Lab videos, then there is no need to have POV. The video can still be in third person like always, it would just be a ton of value to have the VR option available next to 4K, Full HD, and HD on your purchases.

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Postby Starrio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:01 am

Also it is important to mention that many porn fans with a decent buying power already own VR headsets, it is basically a no brainer for the average porn consumer that likes to spend money on their porn, and those that don't have it yet will soon do considering the technology is growing exponentially. It is one of the main reasons why NFTs are hot right now, and crypto will definitely be a huge part of it. It is the whole reason why Facebook changed its name to Meta.

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Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:02 am

Starrio wrote:4K, 5K, and 6K look OK, but honestly most people will pass when better resolutions are widely available nowadays on the popular sites.

Other than that, the only other thing to consider is that most costumers are used to POV on VR, whether is American Studios like Naughty America, European Studios like Czech VR, or Japanese Studios like Idea pocket or S1 No.1 Style.

If the studio is exclusively made for VR I would say a first person approach approach is usually what people expect, similar to what you see on the fisting videos of The Wonder Toys Training Studio or the BTS style of XfreaX.

However if VR is just another format option to the regular Giorgio Grandi and Giorgio's Lab videos, then there is no need to have POV. The video can still be in third person like always, it would just be a ton of value to have the VR option available next to 4K, Full HD, and HD on your purchases.


I completely agree on the resolution talk. 7k+ or bust.

Good point re: POV. POV is so common in VR that when a video isn't POV it's generally tagged "non POV".

That said I personally feel there's room for exploration in a Guorgio scene. I'd watch a non POV VR avids style any time, but the vantage point still has to be compelling.

If you look at the Veronica Leal blowbang video on Sexlikereal, and tinker with search you'll find they have both a POV and non POV version of the same vid.

Personally I think the latest Kate video above (blanking on last name and dont want to lose text], and the Sexlikereal Billie Star video where she is dressed as a cop are two of the closest representations so far of what Giorgio (or another LP studio) could do, and the camera is handled quite well in both for there being so many actors (5+).
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Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:08 am

Starrio wrote: it is basically a no brainer for the average porn consumer that likes to spend money on their porn, and those that don't have it yet will soon do considering the technology is growing exponentially.


This. Some people don't realize yet how big VR is going to get. It's an exciting technology not just for porn but entertainment in general, work environments, modeling, medical training, social networking. The list goes on.

But this is a porn forum. So give us 5 on 1 dps with creampie endings in 8k VR or bust! Lol
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Postby Starrio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:37 am

Pboxer88 wrote:
Good point re: POV. POV is so common in VR that when a video isn't POV it's generally tagged "non POV".

That said I personally feel there's room for exploration in a Guorgio scene. I'd watch a non POV VR avids style any time, but the vantage point still has to be compelling.

If you look at the Veronica Leal blowbang video on Sexlikereal, and tinker with search you'll find they have both a POV and non POV version of the same vid.

Personally I think the latest Kate video above (blanking on last name and dont want to lose text], and the Sexlikereal Billie Star video where she is dressed as a cop are two of the closest representations so far of what Giorgio (or another LP studio) could do, and the camera is handled quite well in both for there being so many actors (5+).


The Wonder Toys Training Studio and XfreX are ready to go for VR, TheWonderToys is POV already, and the BTS style of XfreX videos are ideal for VR.

In terms of Giorgio Grandi and Giorgio's Lab, I feel the camera work is already there, the shots are close enough for VR already, and a little break from afar doesn't hurt the experience, which is something those studios already do. Plus if you get way too close it gets out of focus anyway.

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Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:05 am

Starrio wrote:
Pboxer88 wrote:
Good point re: POV. POV is so common in VR that when a video isn't POV it's generally tagged "non POV".

That said I personally feel there's room for exploration in a Guorgio scene. I'd watch a non POV VR avids style any time, but the vantage point still has to be compelling.

If you look at the Veronica Leal blowbang video on Sexlikereal, and tinker with search you'll find they have both a POV and non POV version of the same vid.

Personally I think the latest Kate video above (blanking on last name and dont want to lose text], and the Sexlikereal Billie Star video where she is dressed as a cop are two of the closest representations so far of what Giorgio (or another LP studio) could do, and the camera is handled quite well in both for there being so many actors (5+).


The Wonder Toys Training Studio and XfreX are ready to go for VR, TheWonderToys is POV already, and the BTS style of XfreX videos are ideal for VR.

In terms of Giorgio Grandi and Giorgio's Lab, I feel the camera work is already there, the shots are close enough for VR already, and a little break from afar doesn't hurt the experience, which is something those studios already do. Plus if you get way too close it gets out of focus anyway.

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I agree. I wouldn't mind seeing Giorgio start with a non-POV setup since it would easier to implement, would be amazing in it's own right, and since VR allows easily for zoom in and zoom out. a lot of the cumshots/facials are naturally more POV anyway, so that would be a natural extension.
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:59 am

I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions
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Postby Starrio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:35 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions


Nice to hear you are trying something new. That's what makes producers stand out. Going with the times. Not staying behind. The same goes on other industries too, like TV, music, movies, etc..

Personally I feel having the option of having the videos on VR would bring more costumers with buying power to get exposed to this type of porn that we love.

Plus there is no one else doing anal stuff on VR exclusively which is definitely needed in the VR space right now.

For me I feel there is no need to change anything. Just adding the VR format to the regular videos would make them infinitely more valuable.

Like this:

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:48 am

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Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions


Nice to hear you are trying something new. That's what makes producers stand out. Going with the times. Not staying behind. The same goes on other industries too, like TV, music, movies, etc..

Personally I feel having the option of having the videos on VR would bring more costumers with buying power to get exposed to this type of porn that we love.

Plus there is no one else doing anal stuff on VR exclusively which is definitely needed in the VR space right now.

For me I feel there is no need to change anything. Just adding the VR format to the regular videos would make them infinitely more valuable.

Like this:

Screenshot 2022-03-25 003122.jpg


Fell free to post me the "framing you like"
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Also, would you prefer a static camera recording on the tripod, or just a regular way to shoot (as we do now), but with a VR camera? (so with closeups and so on)
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Starrio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:53 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
Fell free to post me the "framing you like"
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Also, would you prefer a static camera recording on the tripod, or just a regular way to shoot (as we do now), but with a VR camera? (so with closeups and so on)
I need you guys to tell me the more you can, even details, before I go to check the content of the website you posted in the topic and make my own taste, I want to have a picture of your personal taste


The framing in your videos is already good.

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What I would love to see is the videos you already make, but on VR format too. So the exact same videos you are already shoot, but available in both formats, 4K 2D, and 7K VR.

I also would love BTS scenes like the ones on XfreaX because it is like you are walking in the studio watching everything unfold, and that format is in first person already anyway.

That said, it is likely that you will be getting a lot of POV requests since that's the dominant format to shoot when it comes to VR.

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby crustyoldeggplant » Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:49 pm

I would pay 1000s for legalporno VR videos. 99% of VR porn is vanilla at the moment. 2d porn is very boring for me nowadays.

I would enjoy both non-POV and POV VR porn from here. I would prefer POV legalporno style but that would obviously be more expensive to make. Closeups would be nice too but ideally the camera doesnt move too much.

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:59 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
Starrio wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions


Nice to hear you are trying something new. That's what makes producers stand out. Going with the times. Not staying behind. The same goes on other industries too, like TV, music, movies, etc..

Personally I feel having the option of having the videos on VR would bring more costumers with buying power to get exposed to this type of porn that we love.

Plus there is no one else doing anal stuff on VR exclusively which is definitely needed in the VR space right now.

For me I feel there is no need to change anything. Just adding the VR format to the regular videos would make them infinitely more valuable.

Like this:

Screenshot 2022-03-25 003122.jpg


Fell free to post me the "framing you like"
-
Also, would you prefer a static camera recording on the tripod, or just a regular way to shoot (as we do now), but with a VR camera? (so with closeups and so on)
I need you guys to tell me the more you can, even details, before I go to check the content of the website you posted in the topic and make my own taste, I want to have a picture of your personal taste


In terms of filming/framing, there's a few important things:

(A) Scale: This is by far the most important thing to get right, and I think it's mostly a problem of the past, but there's still a few VR studios that get it wrong. Make sure the female actors look female size. If you go look up really old/retro Naughty America VR porn from 2016 or 2017 (their new stuff is much better), or other sites around in that early adopter VR timeframe, you'll find some videos where the female actors look like they are 8 feet tall. And I'm not referring to when they were shown standing, but rather when they were in missionary, doggy or any other position, it felt you were having sex with someone in the NBA that had tits. I think this had to do with the IPD scale or the camera technology at the time, but in either case the actors obviously need to look 5 foot - x to match their height, or if you're going to error on any side, having them look slightly smaller or petite is preferred to them looking like giants. This also has nothing to do with the zoom function. Modern VR players like Skybox paired with the Meta Quest 2 allow a nice range of zoom in and zoom out, and this did not improve the issue on the videos I'm referring to. So do what MilfVR and WankzVR (via the POVR main site) does as they get scale down just right.

(B) Standing Height: This is somewhat related to the above, but a bit different. When you're filming a girl standing, such as the beginning of a video, make sure the camera is high enough to convey proper male height. For example, you have Polly Petrova or Holly Hendrix or some really short girl, when you're taking the standing shot it should look like they're 8-12 inches shorter than you (because they are), not at eye level. Not all VR studios get this right, but many do now. Again MilfVR and WankzVR are excellent examples of those that do it well (via the POVR main site)

(C) Show the damn action. Varied camera height on action shots. This is important for both POV or non POV options. But say for example you have a MMMF, and one of your males is your ""POV dick with abs" with the other two off to the side. The "POV" male is doing anal. In this case, it's important to frame from perspective above, but also do a cut or pan to a eye level shot of the gapes, anal creampies, whatever action is going on at the penetration site for a minute or two every once in awhile. You do this naturally in your videos already, so just think of it as filming a VR version of the action as your normally do. The mistake some VR studios make is they just stay at 6 foot high level action the entire time, even when the girl is gaping or giving a good blowjob, instead of occasionally getting the camera down directly to the penetration site (whether the mouth, pussy or ass). Conclusion: Make sure the camera gets down there sometimes.

(D) Cuts versus pans. The only exception to the above where I said "do what you already do" is it might be helpful to implement a few cuts/edits to move to a new stationary positions, rather than panning around constantly with the camera. This would prevent motion sickness in those sensitive, which is quite a bit in VR. That said, most people have a certain level of tolerance as long as you're not flipping the camera around every which-way every 5 seconds. An example of how you would implement this again would be a standing anal position, followed by a cut to a lower level vantage point directly behind the girl's ass (for gaping, anal creampies, or even to get creative, for pumping away, stationed strategically below the male actor's legs, not sure if I've ever seen that latter one in VR).

(E) Cumshots Facial showers, creampies would model basic what you do now. For facial showers at the end you would just have the camera placed at a high vantage point down on the girls face, and the guys do their thing. You should still zoom in occasionally but make sure there's a minute or so at each zoom level, no rapid zoom in and outs.

(F) Since the videos mentioned in the above thread is getting long, I'll condense here. You mentioned checking out what the competition is doing, I'll summarize recommendations for a day of sampling, which will probably demonstrate everything I said above. (1) POVR - If you subscribe to this site you get the WankzVR and MilfVR content along with a ton of other sites. Both of these subsites have great scale/perspective in recent videos. (2) Sexlikereal- On this site the Veronica Leal 8 man blowbang is a must see. This video did a perfect job of eye level blowjobs. There's also a non POV version for comparison. The next must see is the Billie Star gangbang titled Blonde Big Tits Group Sex Gangbang. If I recall correctly this video is mostly in Non POV. Next, I'd type in gloryhole on the site search and watch the Verena Maxima one. (3) CzechVRNetwork - Excellent video quality, probably the gold standard just in terms of clarity and lighting. They also have some fetish videos with Ana Deville, etc. that provides some ideas on how you capture footage of the penetration site.
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:05 pm

Starrio wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions


Screenshot 2022-03-25 003122.jpg


Big thumbs up. This screenshot is the perfect implementation of how a VR download option should look.
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Starrio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:07 pm

Pboxer88 wrote:
In terms of filming/framing, there's a few important things:

(A) Scale: This is by far the most important thing to get right, and I think it's mostly a problem of the past, but there's still a few VR studios that get it wrong. Make sure the female actors look female size. If you go look up really old/retro Naughty America VR porn from 2016 or 2017 (their new stuff is much better), or other sites around in that early adopter VR timeframe, you'll find some videos where the female actors look like they are 8 feet tall. And I'm not referring to when they were shown standing, but rather when they were in missionary, doggy or any other position, it felt you were having sex with someone in the NBA that had tits. I think this had to do with the IPD scale or the camera technology at the time, but in either case the actors obviously need to look 5 foot - x to match their height, or if you're going to error on any side, having them look slightly smaller or petite is preferred to them looking like giants. This also has nothing to do with the zoom function. Modern VR players like Skybox paired with the Meta Quest 2 allow a nice range of zoom in and zoom out, and this did not improve the issue on the videos I'm referring to. So do what MilfVR and WankzVR (via the POVR main site) does as they get scale down just right.

(B) Standing Height: This is somewhat related to the above, but a bit different. When you're filming a girl standing, such as the beginning of a video, make sure the camera is high enough to convey proper male height. For example, you have Polly Petrova or Holly Hendrix or some really short girl, when you're taking the standing shot it should look like they're 8-12 inches shorter than you (because they are), not at eye level. Not all VR studios get this right, but many do now. Again MilfVR and WankzVR are excellent examples of those that do it well (via the POVR main site)

(C) Show the damn action. Varied camera height on action shots. This is important for both POV or non POV options. But say for example you have a MMMF, and one of your males is your ""POV dick with abs" with the other two off to the side. The "POV" male is doing anal. In this case, it's important to frame from perspective above, but also do a cut or pan to a eye level shot of the gapes, anal creampies, whatever action is going on at the penetration site for a minute or two every once in awhile. You do this naturally in your videos already, so just think of it as filming a VR version of the action as your normally do. The mistake some VR studios make is they just stay at 6 foot high level action the entire time, even when the girl is gaping or giving a good blowjob, instead of occasionally getting the camera down directly to the penetration site (whether the mouth, pussy or ass). Conclusion: Make sure the camera gets down there sometimes.

(D) Cuts versus pans. The only exception to the above where I said "do what you already do" is it might be helpful to implement a few cuts/edits to move to a new stationary positions, rather than panning around constantly with the camera. This would prevent motion sickness in those sensitive, which is quite a bit in VR. That said, most people have a certain level of tolerance as long as you're not flipping the camera around every which-way every 5 seconds. An example of how you would implement this again would be a standing anal position, followed by a cut to a lower level vantage point directly behind the girl's ass (for gaping, anal creampies, or even to get creative, for pumping away, stationed strategically below the male actor's legs, not sure if I've ever seen that latter one in VR).

(E) Cumshots Facial showers, creampies would model basic what you do now. For facial showers at the end you would just have the camera placed at a high vantage point down on the girls face, and the guys do their thing. You should still zoom in occasionally but make sure there's a minute or so at each zoom level, no rapid zoom in and outs.

(F) Since the videos mentioned in the above thread is getting long, I'll condense here. You mentioned checking out what the competition is doing, I'll summarize recommendations for a day of sampling, which will probably demonstrate everything I said above. (1) POVR - If you subscribe to this site you get the WankzVR and MilfVR content along with a ton of other sites. Both of these subsites have great scale/perspective in recent videos. (2) Sexlikereal- On this site the Veronica Leal 8 man blowbang is a must see. This video did a perfect job of eye level blowjobs. There's also a non POV version for comparison. The next must see is the Billie Star gangbang titled Blonde Big Tits Group Sex Gangbang. If I recall correctly this video is mostly in Non POV. Next, I'd type in gloryhole on the site search and watch the Verena Maxima one. (3) CzechVRNetwork - Excellent video quality, probably the gold standard just in terms of clarity and lighting. They also have some fetish videos with Ana Deville, etc. that provides some ideas on how you capture footage of the penetration site.


Some very good points.

A- The girls looking too small is usually a phase studios go through until they get it right, surprisingly this is the one thing that takes the longer for studios to fix. Usually the answer is going a little bigger, and error on going too big, then bring it back down, until you find something appealing.

B- The height thing is also another issue that happens, but it is mostly annoying on first person, on third person you do have more space for error since you don't have to worry for the POV.

C- About getting in the action, particularly blowjobs where the girl looks too far away, it can definitely make the scene go boring all of the sudden, and the solution is to get closer. Some bigger Japanese studios are very good at solving this, and the ay to do it is to get closer. It is a much better experience to have the dick coming from your chest and seeing the face of the girl close, than having the dick come out from your lap, but the girl is so far away that you lose the immersion.

D- I didn't think about this point because I have been doing 3D and VR from the start so I don't get motion sick at all. A lot of people do, and because I don't, I usually love the more dynamic stuff, but for all the newbies there is going to be a large getting used to phase that a lot of people never try to overcome.

I still remember when I had this at the beginning, and it is usually a very unpleasant feeling that can last for days, making you nauseous, and disoriented, feeling that your head is still spinning half way even though you haven't touch the VR in days. But then you just get use to and you don't feel it anymore, but I imagine most people are not going to be willing to go through all that.

Usually you can move the camera in the same spot without causing this, but once you start moving the camera to other spots the solution is having a reference structure around the camera only for the parts where you are moving, if you are moving a lot, but if you aren't moving a lot, and you are moving just the normal amount, you don't even have to worry about it that much unless the person is incredibly newbie and sensible.

F- About having examples I wish Japanese videos where more available in terms of being available through a subscription, but you usually get those individually, and the reason why I say this is beca8ue they do have some amazing examples of how to do VR the right way, and some others of how to do it the wrong way. I personally feel studios like Idea Pocket and S1 No.1 Style have come a long way since they started when they didn't know how to do it.

Then the studios that are more dynamic in terms of movement like SOD Create, and K M Produce have some of the most amazing directing ideas for content, but that usually comes with having less control over body sizes and heights, so it isn't always perfect, just sometimes.

I do like the work of Virtual Taboo and Dark Room, then Czech VR is obviously good too, so I would say in the West they are some of the best references to see the different possibilities.

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Starrio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:08 pm

Pboxer88 wrote:
Starrio wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions


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Big thumbs up. This screenshot is the perfect implementation of how a VR download option should look.


It would be amazing indeed, I can already imagine it.

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:40 pm

You asked for shot ideas.

Camera ideally should be a little more steal, but this is a great distance/camera placement/height for facial ending:

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Other than Veronica's 8 man blowbang on sexlikereal, and the Verena Maxima glorhole, you don't see a lot of woman's head level shots like this in VR:

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Another side shot:

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Typical eye level creampie:

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Pboxer88 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:41 pm

**camera more **still** I meant to say
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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Ranger1282991 » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:04 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?

I have two headsets (Valve Index, Quest 2).

Although I don't like "normal porn" very much and it makes up the majority of VR porn, I almost only buy VR content. Everything that isn't VR seems kind of boring. I currently have subscriptions to 4 different VR porn sites and I have been a member of almost every VR site on the market over the last 2 years.

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Ranger1282991 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:56 pm

[quote="Pboxer88"]You asked for shot ideas.

Very good examples of VR camera positions.

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Re: Virtual reality studio

Postby Ranger1282991 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:58 pm

For the content offered on analvids, I would totally prefer Non-POV.

1. I think it's much easier for the producer and the actors to handle.

2. In my opinion, POV style is good for the viewer when it comes to vanilla sex scenes. It is then less hardcore and more softcore or erotic. But when it comes to fetish or gangbang scenes, the non-POV style offers much better opportunities to see what's interesting. For me, fetish and hardcore porn is much more about the voyeur aspect of pornography and less about the pretense of a sexual act.

3. To me, the terms "POV" and "non-POV" are pretty nonsensical anyway, since the technology itself creates the immersion. My "point-of-view" is where the camera is, no matter if another man's body is at that spot. It would just be a pity if in a Gorgio Grandi film, where so much happens, the camera would always film only one spot for such a long time, as it is the case with POV style scenes.

4. I would also prefer a free-moving camera to a fixed position, if it is possible to move it smoothly and also keep it in a fixed position for a short time. I never had motion sickness. I like the feeling when the camera moves slowly.

5. The suggestion to shoot the scenes exactly as always, only with a VR camera, I find not so bad. I had already wished for that from many studios and it could be quite good, especially here.


VR versions of "The Wonder Toys Training Studio" and "XfreaX - Behind the scenes" would also be a dream.

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