First 3 Months of 2024 Have Been Dark for Actresses

[Christopher_Williams1]

So far this year, we lost at least 3 actresses. It seems like the common causes are suicides and drug overdoses. Those 2 things are very common in America, but I have to admit that it weighs on me a lot more when a face that I recognize is part of the awful statistics.

Also, we have another actress, Emily Willis that is in a vegetative coma due to cardiac arrest. She has been in the hospital since early February and she will need a miracle in order to partially recover. If you're spiritual, please pray for her as there is still hope, but the odds of recovering decrease every additional day that she remains in the coma.

This is speculation, but being that she's only 25, I believe drugs had to be partially the blame.

For me personally, porn is supposed to be fun and relieves stress. If a chick has to get drugged up to perform, then I much rather for her to retire, as her life is more valuable than I getting an erection for a few minutes. Emily Willis did retire (with a net worth of $1M) from porn, so you would think that she's less reliable on it now. But I guess, she became addicted to it. Again, all of this is speculation, but 25 is awfully young to have a cardiac arrest from nowhere.

Why do you think suicides and drug overdoses are so much of a problem?
Do you think that it's not really a problem for the porn industry in particular, but a broader problem, as even military veterans commit suicides at high rates too? Even rich successful celebrities are affected by this (Robin Williams).
Do you think that the adult industry tends to attract women that might have those underlying problems rather than women that wouldn't have had those problems if only they didn't join the industry?

I'm interested in knowing your thoughts. One good thing though, April Paisley looks healthier. I have seen scenes older scenes of her that had me worry about her life behind the camera, as I really care for her as a person too, not just as an actress. I could be wrong about my suspicion, but I'm glad that she's looking healthier and her new persona is awesome.

[CocosNucifera]

An important and heartwarming input by Christopher_Williams1.

As for now, I will refrain from sharing my view, as this is a very serious topic that need to be adressed with seriousness and after careful reflection, but I only want to say to the Original Poster that I share his preoccupation and his care.

I have never had contact with porn models, but I do have acquaintances among sex workers and, considering them as true friends, I have witnessed the issues they face and tried to help them to deal with them.

Sometimes it's just sordid and very sad.

You have brought up a very serious topic, Christopher_Williams1, and I am thankful to You for having done this and for caring for models.

[M_sicas_Candido]

[quote="Christopher_Williams1"]
Do you think that the adult industry tends to attract women that might have those underlying problems rather than women that wouldn't have had those problems if only they didn't join the industry?
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I imagine that the risks are the same as in any other artistic medium, be it cinema, music, etc. How many singers and artists were or still are slaves to drugs...

[Christopher_Williams1]

Thanks CocosNucifera for sharing the same concern.

And M_sicas_Candido, I'm leaning more to it just being a broader problem in America. One thing that I really love about the European adult industry, is that I can look up older scenes of actresses and not have to be disappointed that they are no longer with us.

I have my doubts that the American adult industry is so much more brutal than the European one.

So if the adult industry is pretty much common between the 2 areas, then we have to look at what's not common.

In America, it might be harder to get a job that pays well enough to live comfortably if you don't have a degree. So that in itself, can cause depression. And because the job might not pay well, women might supplement their income with OF or adult content from studios. So clearly in this case, it's the outside factors causing the depression instead of their side job.

And depression can lead to people trying to cope either through drug usage or unaliving themselves. We should all be really to provide them support when it's needed. But I guess I can feel a little bit better about supporting the adult industry as it's not really the main driver behind these early deaths.

Lastly, I want to make it clear that I'm not suggesting that all women don't enjoy the industry and just doing it to make extra money. I'm just suggesting that the industry might be attracting women that have other serious problems in their lives. But also, this isn't limited to just the adult industry.

[Paizal]

Why do you think suicides and drug overdoses are so much of a problem?

I think porn is a very, very dark place.There are numerous reports of violent male actors. Then there is the physical violence. Scenes become more and more humiliating. For directors and consumers, they are just fuck meat. Everything gets more violent and disturbing just because a lonely fat pig on the internet gets some blood in his micro penis. I think when girls get into this circle where they think they're worth nothing, it's very, very difficult to get out of it. Especially when drugs are involved.

[dap-addict]

...when girls get into this circle where they think they're worth nothing, it's very, very difficult to get out of it. Especially when drugs are involved.

The drug thing is overplayed by general public a bit in my experience, ie. there are really many porn girl not doing drugs at all! But what is very important is that downward special of demeaning and lacking self-esteem you mention if I understand you right.

Also very good OP, thanks for trying to discuss porn girls with compassion, Williams!

[aarsonhfr]

your concerns about recent losses in the entertainment industry, as well as the challenges that some actors and actresses may face, including drug issues, mental health and the risks associated with their profession. Suicides and drug overdoses in the porn industry. The porn industry in particular, admittedly, can be associated with unique risks, in terms of pressure to perform, social stigma, and potential for exploitation. Some people might be drawn to this field because of their own personal struggles, others may enter it for different reasons.

[Christopher_Williams1]

Why do you think suicides and drug overdoses are so much of a problem?

I think porn is a very, very dark place.There are numerous reports of violent male actors. Then there is the physical violence. Scenes become more and more humiliating. For directors and consumers, they are just fuck meat. Everything gets more violent and disturbing just because a lonely fat pig on the internet gets some blood in his micro penis. I think when girls get into this circle where they think they're worth nothing, it's very, very difficult to get out of it. Especially when drugs are involved.

I haven't noticed that. I do spend most of time on Pornbox, which will quickly decentivize porn that they deem inappropriate. Then I got to really thinking and only kink.com came to mind. I don't care too much for BDSM porn these days, but the site looks very innocent and I think women that did work with them in the past, have all mostly had positive experiences. I'm not saying that you're wrong, just wanted to mention my observation.

I also believe that 95% of porn watchers enjoy the scenes a lot more when the chick is also enjoying it. You know, watching a chick have a real orgasm and squirting. Because of that, I feel that the incentive is way less for producing scenes over the top. But... if 5% of porn watchers like somewhat violent scenes, and only a couple of sites produce them, then those sites stand to do well financially.

[Christopher_Williams1]

...when girls get into this circle where they think they're worth nothing, it's very, very difficult to get out of it. Especially when drugs are involved.

The drug thing is overplayed by general public a bit in my experience, ie. there are really many porn girl not doing drugs at all! But what is very important is that downward special of demeaning and lacking self-esteem you mention if I understand you right.

Also very good OP, thanks for trying to discuss porn girls with compassion, Williams!

I recently saw a site that compiled a list of stars that are no longer with us. It had about 200 women on the list, with a large portion of them listed as cause of death as drug overdose. However, not all of them were recent deaths. Heck, some of them probably died decades ago. And we can agree that tens of thousands of women have participated in the industry over the past few decades. So what I'm getting at, is that it maybe possible that a small percentage of actresses use narcotics from day-to-day.

[YuriyProneBone]

From my perspective this is a broader issue that involves all sectors of society. What happens is the most people going through this aren't exposed publicly. Porn is one way to get exposure, so because of this it is easier to spot these things when they happen, but in reality is something that can be accounted for to happen on a broader scale.

Of course culture matters. You are more likely to get drug overdosed in U.S. than on other countries, but other countries deal with this a lot as well.

[beklof]

Yes, heartbreaking news, absolutely. I personally assume that studio owners, producers, directors and co-actors each have their responsibilities. They have a responsibility to react and the studios must have clear rules. It should be self-evident that an actor who is known to use drugs should have no business getting involved in productions. The same should apply to an actor who obviously has mental problems. The practices here should be exactly the same as in any workplace.

Then there should be zero tolerance for any kind of violent behavior, be it mild or gross. A male actor who can't treat female actors with respect should have nothing to do in the industry! And no looking between the fingers, no matter how famous the star!

There is also no right to pressure girls into doing things they don't really want to do. Is someone so stupid that doesn't understand that the more perverted porn becomes, the greater the risk that girls will start suffering from mental problems! The logic is crystal clear. The line of greed, recklessness and irresponsibility has to be crossed somewhere in the porn industry too!

[M_sicas_Candido]

the more perverted porn becomes, the greater the risk that girls will start suffering from mental problems! The logic is crystal clear. The line of greed, recklessness and irresponsibility has to be crossed somewhere in the porn industry too!

Yes. It is this type of sick content - involving aggression, simulated abuse, etc. - that has tarnished the image of the industry (if we can really call it pornography). I'm sure no fully conscious girl (they must have consumed substances that made them tolerant) would perform some acts demanded by certain guys. This shouldn't even be legally available on the internet.

[Vancouver]

the more perverted porn becomes, the greater the risk that girls will start suffering from mental problems! The logic is crystal clear. The line of greed, recklessness and irresponsibility has to be crossed somewhere in the porn industry too!

Yes. It is this type of sick content - involving aggression, simulated abuse, etc. - that has tarnished the image of the industry (if we can really call it pornography). I'm sure no fully conscious girl (they must have consumed substances that made them tolerant) would perform some acts demanded by certain guys. This shouldn't even be legally available on the internet.

Then why are you here? People enjoy this stuff, including the performers. Some performers do a package of extreme scenes, dont like it, and never do it again. Some love it and do dozens and dozens of scenes. You think Veronica Leal is just a drugged out mental case?

The statement you made is made by people for even simple softcore porn scenes, even stripping. People just say those things because they hate sexual empowerment.

And by the way, porn deaths and suicides are a lot lower than they were in past eras. For what its worth. Its not much different than the cross section of humanity. Thousands and thousands and thousands of women commit suicide in Europe and the US ( where most of the porn industries we see are), and they are waitresses and accountants and lawyers and students and real estate agents, etc.

[M_sicas_Candido]

Then why are you here?

If you read my comment more carefully you will understand that I was not even referring to LP/AV or any professional studio. I talked about productions where aggressions really happen and the scenes revolve around this. Only psychopaths or sociopaths get pleasure from it.

The statement you made is made by people for even simple softcore porn scenes, even stripping.

I conclude that you really did not understand what I said.

People just say those things because they hate sexual empowerment.

"Empowerment", really? Haha. Is submitting to bestial and transgressive behavior being empowered? I want to stay away from that.

[doraemon_washington]

People just say those things because they hate sexual empowerment.

"Empowerment", really? Haha. Is submitting to bestial and transgressive behavior being empowered? I want to stay away from that.

masochism is another type of thing

masochism emporwerment is cool

[Dickson_More]

Well, I tried to make a contribution here - didn't think it was offensive or crazy - but the mods seem to have squatted on it.

Are there rules or guidelines I should know about?